No Preference

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I voted today and did as I said I would do and voted no preference for the Democratic nomination for President because I am profoundly dismayed and angered by the lack of backbone shown by Barack Obama during the recent attacks upon his faith and the Black Church.

I struggled mightily. The twenty minutes I stared at my ballot seemed like an eternity. I went back and forth several times. Surrounded by other blackfolks, I became self-conscious. I wrestled with the lie I told the cheerful White Obama canvasser who ambushed me as I left my home. I then struggled with the commitment that I felt strongly enough to tell all of you about and my twenty-five year desire for a black President.

I teared up a bit and stared at the paper some more. My thoughts drifted to a dear friend’s 25 year-old brother lying comatose in intensive care, the victim of double aneurisms, dangling somewhere between life and death, and I wondered what is so damn wrong with refusing to compromise your core values and living the life God gives you informed by Trinity United Church of Christ’s motto “Unashamedly Black and Unapologetically Christian.”

If the Father gives that boy a second chance at life, as I pray he does, I have no doubt that he will live his life to the fullest and without regrets. He comes from a proud Nigerian household and their love and commitment to each other is uniquely powerful. It makes me proud to know his sister and count her as one of my dearest friends. Their pride in their heritage makes them stronger as black people and as a family. It is unfathomable to me why Obama, a son East Africa, is afraid to embrace the power of his black religious heritage and stand on what I know he believes but refuses to confess to White America.

And yes, contrary to his 2004 Democratic National Convention speech, there is a White America and a Black America. And they are separate and unequal because we are not one people and never have been.

I watched Bill Moyers interview with Dr. Wright last night and heard nothing a reasonable person who understands the depth of African American suffering and the shame of our country’s history of slavery, genocide, and Jim Crow could be offended by.

Still grappling with my decision, I remembered Obama’s Friday presser. Senator Obama continued to distance himself from his Pastor of two decades yesterday by continuing the use of his weasel word mantra of “profound disagreement” over Dr. Wright’s, “objectionable” comments and why he and White America, “took offense.” I marked my ballot, smiled at the sistah who took my name and gave me ballot, and strode confidently back to my car.

Some people would rather live shackled by a cacophony of patriotic white supremacist lies than live in freedom and truth. Any campaign which genuflects to the head in the sand mentality so prevalent in White America is a campaign based on lies of political expedience and I cannot support that without protest.

If you disagree, watch Dr. Wright and Obama for yourself.

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100 thoughts on “No Preference

  1. zeitgeist9000

    SB, you are courageous.

    To your Nigerian friend, I, too, hope that God restores him to the fullness of life.

  2. sixseven

    SB,

    BO is in an extremely tough place, even a no win place.

    He is well aware that to totally “reject”, “denounce” and abandon Wright would lose him a large percentage of Black support .

    He also has to be mindful that if he “fully” embraced him, he would quickly forfeit perhaps the bulk of the white base.

    As you are well aware, the folks who run things are still predominantly Caucasian and to disregard their sensibilities would adversely affect him.

    So he has to strike that delicate balance between mildly censuring but on some level, honoring the pastor.

    As he said, his grandma said some vile things but he couldn’t disown her anymore than he could his pastor.

    And to be fair, we all know someone who has said something with which we disagree.

    Do we scuttle the relationship as a result or do we focus on that person’s better qualities which is what fostered the relationship in the first place?

    As the Rev said, “He has to do what he has to do.”

  3. I’m not going to say that I’m happy about your decision. I’m not. I respect that you stuck to your principles, but that doesn’t mean I have to be happy about it.

  4. I can’t argue with your logic. Political expediency is no kinda change at all. Depressing as hell that we seem to be stuck in time with no signs of progress for many years to come.

  5. Once again, I think your concern about the senator’s distancing himself with his pastor’s remarks is pandering to the white folks is somewhat misguided. As I said in the past, I know many ignorant black folks that are as concerned with the most extreme sound bites of Wrights sermons as I know ignorant white folks (admittedly I originally knew of very few of either, but I got the opportunity to meet many during the process of registering voters and campaigning in PA).

    I feel he sought to soothe the fears of people of all colors who took offense, but your concern was that he had given himself up to please the white man.

    Well I will tell you this: Bigger than the just the white vote, bigger than just the black vote, in this country, the ignorant vote is supreme. And with enough ignorant folks marking the ballot for the wife of the man they ignorantly believe to be the “first black president” but instead was a man who race baited the real first black president. With enough ignorant voters who think that somehow this man with an incendiary pastor is a Muslim. With enough ignorant folks who can’t tell the difference between attacking Afghanistan and attacking Iraq. Well, the last thing we need is a knowledgeable, principled brother whose vote doesn’t in some way balance out theirs.

    I saw that you had let your healthy skepticism stay on the sidelines until you could hope, but I fear that you distrust yourself to do what your heart told you to do. And I weep for you too. And I hope that in 4 years, you can proudly re-elect the man whose actions in office lived up to the dream you have had. The same dream that I share with you and Dr. King.

  6. Stephen Schwartz

    A sad and self defeating choice.

    While I also would have liked BHO to stand by Jeremiah Wright, how does one balance the importance of getting elected vs. this sort of thing?

    I am not Black so my right to comment may be limited, still I need Obama as President and hope you will change your mind.

  7. Ervin

    I cannot read anymore of this website. Skeptical brotha you have managed to over analyze this situation and I’m just confused about your ideals and thoughts. I encourage you to take a break from this campaign and take a little breather. It ain’t that deep.

  8. NJC

    Even if Obama “sinned” by not defending Wright. Sinners can find redemption.

    But you have to give him a chance.

  9. Andrea

    I’m not going to patronize you and tell you that I am proud like I am superior to pass out blessings and grace, but I AM PROUD as a mortal peer who knows how difficult it is live a life of integrity.

    I wrote something about Rev. Wright earlier this month about his silence but deleted it (or rather clipped it) and saved it on my computer. I will post it when I find it but I feel I must share this with you first.

    I want you to remember this that I know you already know:

    Remember this story…(And I know most of us don’t know parables and prophecy. We don’t know shit about ourselves. I clipped this from the internet because we need to re-engage with our prophetic heritage and legacy lost.)

    “After Assyria conquered the Northern Kingdom in 722BC all that was left of Israel was a small portion around Jerusalem called Judah. In spite of the judgment experienced by their cousins in the north, Judah also fell into a state of idolatry and so the Lord permitted Babylon to conquer them as well (Jer. 25:8-9). In his first siege of Jerusalem in 605BC the King of Babylon took hostages from the Royal family to his capital in an effort to assure the compliance of those he left in place as vassals to govern Judah according to his wishes. (This plan was ultimately unsuccessful and so in 586BC after 2 more sieges, he completely destroyed Jerusalem including the Temple Solomon had built and carried off all its inhabitants into slavery.)

    Among the royal hostages were Daniel, a future prophet of Israel whom the King renamed Belteshazzar, and three friends, Hananiah, Mishael, and Azariah renamed Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego. These four were given training and education in the ways of Babylon and otherwise prepared to serve the King in his court (Daniel 1:1-7). They proved to be excellent students and within a few years, following Daniel’s interpretation of a dream that had troubled the King, were appointed to positions of administrative authority over the Province of Babylon (Daniel 2).

    Sometime later the King decided to have a gigantic golden statue of himself placed in a prominent place on the plains of Dura outside the city. It was sixty cubits (90 ft.) tall 6 cubits wide and according to tradition stood on a pedestal six steps high and here you have the first clue of what’s really going on in this children’s story (666). The King required all his subjects to bow down and worship the statue and decreed that anyone refusing to do so would be thrown into a fiery furnace and burned alive (Daniel 3:1-7).

    Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego had maintained their covenant relationship with the God of Israel and refused to bow down and worship anyone other than Him. This act of disobedience was reported to the King and though fond of them he was furious. When they rejected his offer of a 2nd chance to comply with his command, saying that their God was able to rescue them but even if He didn’t they still wouldn’t worship anyone else, he had them bound and thrown into the furnace (Daniel 3:16-23).

    Apparently this furnace was constructed in a public place so that the punishment could be witnessed by all, because the King saw his three disobedient subjects in the fire. But he was shocked to see a 4th figure in there as well; one who looked like “the Son of God”, and all four were walking around in the fire unbound (Daniel 3:25).

    The King called Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego to come out of the furnace and to his utter amazement discovered that they were totally unharmed, not even the smell of smoke on their clothing, and the only things burned up were the ropes that had bound them. The King gave praise to the God of Israel and decreed that from that time on anyone who said anything against Him would be executed “for no other god can save in this way” (Daniel 3:28-29).”

    You will be fine. I told you that I would brace you while you carried your cross. And babe, you are carrying it in front of your brothermen who may spit at you and curse you. That’s no different from any other prophet that has lived. You have to walk the same path and I am proud of you…seeing another mortal man walk boldly with courage with an unpopular choice and decision.

    This parable is not only yours but it is also Rev. Wrights…mine…all of us. It is about how we decide to choose. You were in the lions den with Rev. Wright and “Daniel” and then thrown in the Fiery Furnace with Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego.

    There are special people walking amongst us everyday and they are prophetic as mere mortal beings that hurt and are flawed but they exert exhibitions of courage and that is the tale of this parable then in A.D. and now after Christ. I read a lot of their sentiments hear and they don’t even know they could be so powerful if only they knew the Divine Word and The Work that had to be done and needed their submission in trusting in the UNSEEN.

    This…this political drama…it ain’t just about some secular political campaign. We are a nation devoid of justice and a people without direction or vision. We are ill. We are hurting. I’m stark-raving mad but I have to perform as a calm, sane person to keep a job and not be considered THAT CRAZY LADY.

    Proverbs 29:18

    Where there is no vision, the people perish: but he that keepeth the law, happy is he.

    We (Blacks) are hallow (been gutted and have voluntarily gutted ourselves) yet we come from so much that once fulfilled us. This is part of all of our collective and personal tests.

    And by-the-way…I have not been to church in about 20 plus years as a parishner and even when I was going in my teens, I was daydreaming in every (Catholic) mass. I remember the scripture from my childhood in Seventh Day Adventist school and my Sunday School lessons by Cousin Flossie at my family’s Baptist Church. I have for almost 30 years been waiting to see someone like you and to find a church like my rebellious dually politcally secular and socially spiritual elementary school.

    You are the closest thing in a way. And that is too why I knew too the prophetic language of what played out with Rev. Wright was the equivalent to him being Daniel in the Lion’s Den to Obama not standing to pass moral, spiritual, and even secular tests.

    It’s a lonely walk STRUGGLING to bear your cross alone and it would be at least so much more comforting if we all walked in solidarity carrying our crosses with you. At least know that there a some and you and Rev. Wright and those at The Black Agenda Report and so many more are carrying theirs with you. I got your back (and I can be a bit willful and crazy like Peter).

  10. Andrea

    I’m not going to patronize you and tell you that I am proud like I am superior to pass out blessings and grace, but I AM PROUD as a mortal peer who knows how difficult it is live a life of integrity.

    I wrote something about Rev. Wright earlier this month about his silence but deleted it (or rather clipped it) and saved it on my computer. I will post it when I find it but I feel I must share this with you first.

    I want you to remember this that I know you already know:

    Remember this story…(And I know most of us don’t know parables and prophecy. We don’t know shit about ourselves. I clipped this from the internet because we need to re-engage with our prophetic heritage and legacy lost.)

    “After Assyria conquered the Northern Kingdom in 722BC all that was left of Israel was a small portion around Jerusalem called Judah. In spite of the judgment experienced by their cousins in the north, Judah also fell into a state of idolatry and so the Lord permitted Babylon to conquer them as well (Jer. 25:8-9). In his first siege of Jerusalem in 605BC the King of Babylon took hostages from the Royal family to his capital in an effort to assure the compliance of those he left in place as vassals to govern Judah according to his wishes. (This plan was ultimately unsuccessful and so in 586BC after 2 more sieges, he completely destroyed Jerusalem including the Temple Solomon had built and carried off all its inhabitants into slavery.)

    Among the royal hostages were Daniel, a future prophet of Israel whom the King renamed Belteshazzar, and three friends, Hananiah, Mishael, and Azariah renamed Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego. These four were given training and education in the ways of Babylon and otherwise prepared to serve the King in his court (Daniel 1:1-7). They proved to be excellent students and within a few years, following Daniel’s interpretation of a dream that had troubled the King, were appointed to positions of administrative authority over the Province of Babylon (Daniel 2).

    Sometime later the King decided to have a gigantic golden statue of himself placed in a prominent place on the plains of Dura outside the city. It was sixty cubits (90 ft.) tall 6 cubits wide and according to tradition stood on a pedestal six steps high and here you have the first clue of what’s really going on in this children’s story (666). The King required all his subjects to bow down and worship the statue and decreed that anyone refusing to do so would be thrown into a fiery furnace and burned alive (Daniel 3:1-7).

    Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego had maintained their covenant relationship with the God of Israel and refused to bow down and worship anyone other than Him. This act of disobedience was reported to the King and though fond of them he was furious. When they rejected his offer of a 2nd chance to comply with his command, saying that their God was able to rescue them but even if He didn’t they still wouldn’t worship anyone else, he had them bound and thrown into the furnace (Daniel 3:16-23).

    Apparently this furnace was constructed in a public place so that the punishment could be witnessed by all, because the King saw his three disobedient subjects in the fire. But he was shocked to see a 4th figure in there as well; one who looked like “the Son of God”, and all four were walking around in the fire unbound (Daniel 3:25).

    The King called Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego to come out of the furnace and to his utter amazement discovered that they were totally unharmed, not even the smell of smoke on their clothing, and the only things burned up were the ropes that had bound them. The King gave praise to the God of Israel and decreed that from that time on anyone who said anything against Him would be executed “for no other god can save in this way” (Daniel 3:28-29).”

    You will be fine. I told you that I would brace you while you carried your cross. And babe, you are carrying it in front of your brothermen who may spit at you and curse you. That’s no different from any other prophet that has lived. You have to walk the same path and I am proud of you…seeing another mortal man walk boldly with courage with an unpopular choice and decision.

    This parable is not only yours but it is also Rev. Wrights…mine…all of us. It is about how we decide to choose. You were in the lions den with Rev. Wright and “Daniel” and then thrown in the Fiery Furnace with Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego.

    There are special people walking amongst us everyday and they are prophetic as mere mortal beings that hurt and are flawed but they exert exhibitions of courage and that is the tale of this parable then in A.D. and now after Christ. I read a lot of their sentiments hear and they don’t even know they could be so powerful if only they knew the Divine Word and The Work that had to be done and needed their submission in trusting in the UNSEEN.

    This…this political drama…it ain’t just about some secular political campaign. We are a nation devoid of justice and a people without direction or vision. We are ill. We are hurting. I’m stark-raving mad but I have to perform as a calm, sane person to keep a job and not be considered THAT CRAZY LADY.

    Proverbs 29:18

    Where there is no vision, the people perish: but he that keepeth the law, happy is he.

    We (Blacks) are hallow (been gutted and have voluntarily gutted ourselves) yet we come from so much that once fulfilled us. This is part of all of our collective and personal tests.

    And by-the-way…I have not been to church in about 20 plus years as a parishner and even when I was going in my teens, I was daydreaming in every (Catholic) mass. I remember the scripture from my childhood in Seventh Day Adventist school and my Sunday School lessons by Cousin Flossie at my family’s Baptist Church. I have for almost 30 years been waiting to see someone like you and to find a church like my rebellious dually politcally secular and socially spiritual elementary school.

    You are the closest thing in a way. And that is too why I knew too the prophetic language of what played out with Rev. Wright was the equivalent to him being Daniel in the Lion’s Den to Obama not standing to pass moral, spiritual, and even secular tests.

    It’s a lonely walk STRUGGLING to bear your cross alone and it would be at least so much more comforting if we all walked in solidarity carrying our crosses with you. At least know that there a some and you and Rev. Wright and those at The Black Agenda Report and so many more are carrying theirs with you. I got your back (and I can be a bit willful and crazy like Peter).

  11. Andrea

    I wrote this April 7th and someone, a Sista, continued on that date in a post here that Rev. Wright and Obama were bosom buddies basically. I didn’t think so. I had no proof — only experience and intuition. When I read the post I started writing this but was sidetracked in finally not being the exceptional and extraordinary Negro at work anymore with the White Liberal Elite. It’s still like that and I expect tomorrow when we return to work it will be more of the not wanting to say the wrong thing around me hence the Bill Moyer interview. But this was what I suspected prior to the interview:

    “Awhile ago a gentleman here posed the question hoping to make us consider why Rev. Wright is has been so quiet. No one really responded and I think I was tied in a mental fatigue at work over this issue with my White Liberal Elite peers.

    I have suspected for the past few weeks since this scandal arose centered around the plausibility of a Black Man with that level of religious conviction and prowess — to be that close in proximity to a Presidential candidate — saying the things he said, people were just looking to see this man dealt with, handled, and sent away with his tail between his legs. I think that way because I know what the heat feels like and how people operate so that the public never sees the victimizing by the victimizer or the victim being victimized. And hence Rev. Wright’s sequester a lot of us take it as if he is voluntarily removed instead of maybe just BEING NICE to not get funky.

    Now I am not saying anything cagey about the campaign sequestering him because I think that would be impossible — unless he was being blackmailed at this point on top of things. Because of things I have seen and things I have been threatened and forewarned of by NICE PEOPLE and those mean, I have the experience to know there are dynamics of far-flung conspiracy ideas that really have a pinch of validity. Anything IS possible if by any means necessary. But what I sense however is that Rev. Wright is obliging out of niceness to Barack and to have as much abiding faith to believe in one of his flock. Fact: Rev. Wright has been around a long time and he knows. I would not be surprised to hear of this and several machinations in the future from Rev. Wright.

    See…no one in the Black Community wants to be on the wrong side of making history let alone a variable of history prohibiting or licensing the chance to support and assist the success of a Black Person that could change impact society. So we feel obligated if to not be supportive. We feel obligated to believe. And when we don’t believe in Barack we feel…the loss…for not and having loss it.

    People spout all the time that Rev. Wright and Barack are either in cahoots or they are bosom buddies. I think rather not that they have either of those relationship structures right now. Right now as the willful handling of this by Barack, Rev. Barack is too learning more and more of what his parishner exudes in action vs. ideology.

    It’s like when you tell someone that you regard that you don’t want to stand in the way in blocking the determination to venture somewhere and in ways you would not — so you step aside as a contribution of support. Or when you tell someone you will do something with them eventhough you really don’t want to. You do it in order to support because at the time you think the support is of greater need and you trust that the person will learn that they may be wrong, misguided, in over their head, may find out things they didn’t believe was true or that what was required more, etc.

    From experience in being a hopeful person, I have had to invest in over-abundance of hope of others to find they still let you down. But while you are seeing that they are failing you, in the relationship you are trying to balance sustaining support, belief, and hope while experience is telling you that you judgment has already ruled that person to be what they are showing you. Your investment in hope is to give that person another day everyday HOPING that your judgment is proven wrong for both of your sakes (both of their integrity). You are hoping to not have to break and ultimately — may — have to start the fight with that one you love (Rev. Wright with Obama). And you as well are worrying not only of the fight that has to be the resulted solution to stop the serial co-denpendent enabling (Rev. Wright no longer abiding to compartmentalize for and dilute for Barack), but you are fighting with your fears that you know you may have to destroy that person you love to simply stop their destructive might (Rev. Wright vs. his supposed disciple or Moses vs. Aaron or Jesus vs. the “I want to do it my way disciples”). Who wants to be in Rev. Wright’s shoes?

    Seriously…who wants to be in Rev. Wright’s shoes?

    The past few weeks has not been hard on Rev. Wright because the media and self-interested factions have assailed him and his reputation. Rev. Wright is secure that those who are spiritual as well as emotionally intellectual understand that those daggers have only but missed him each and every time, still. The dagger that hits is the dagger of cowardice by the member of his flock (Barack) being tested before the world and has used him as a shield. And Rev. Wright by removing himself has rendered himself, for now, a sacrifice. It’s only if and when Rev. Wright defends himself, will then the protection ends for both of them. We have seen Rev. Wright crucified but if he rises to return to fight, it’s going to be a bigger mess with more casualities. Those who defend will have to stand up in ways they have not yet and all will have to choose sides. It’s what I was saying: we are all being tested.

    See…since he can’t talk as how it is produced to look as a production of his public shame, people read the signs of evidence incorrectly. Rev. Wright can talk. And again I am saying he could be muscled by Barack’s handlers behind Barack’s back or…Barack could be playing innocent that he knows of no such conspiring. But for us to consider to not take much interest in realizing that something is peculiar about Rev. Wright’s silence is a sign of blind loyalty, we are showing our inexperience how to read code.

    Rev. Wright is probably like a lot of us bound to hope or inconvenience. But Rev. Wright is not sitting comfortably laughing at RACIST WHITE AMERICA. He is not a silly man or vengeful man. I really suspect he is unhappy and wants to speak but not under the conditions that may put him on the wrong side of history as it will be written in history that he was the one that ruined Barack’s chances. He is giving Barack time to correct his decision. He will speak one day. His obligation to his God and his self is trusting him but will not wait forever with him stalling because as a preacher, he is not supposed to stall.

    If Rev. Wright showed us his social justice challenges to Barack that would not look like a brokered alliance but a marriage of circumstance…not even inconvenience. Rev. Wright knows he is the linchpin in holding up Barack’s candidancy by being CONVENIENTLY coincidentally retired from preaching, public, and speaking. There is no such thing as coincidence.

    And last: who wants to retire and know your man-made legacy is shaped by an incomplete and maybe dereliction of duty. His work is not finished. He was just given his biggest test. Yes, Rev. Wright is in a turmoil of knowing he could ruin someone’s secular ambitions but his decision to remain quiet or speak up could change history. It’s according to how it is written and who writes it.

    People forget that preachers — even as our mortal counselors and representatives of God/Divinity — they too have to stand before their God. So Rev. Wright can block and defend only but so long and his work even though technically retired is never done until he is laying in a casket. As long as he walks the earth and has made a commitment to God, he is still and will be a working minister. That is his duty to God and not to a punchcard time-clock of 9 to 5 bricks-and-mortar church ministry.

  12. Skep,

    Who do you think Rev. Wright will vote for? Even Wright understands that Obama has to “speak as a politician”.

    I admire your idealism. Black folks wouldn’t be where we are today without our enduring idealism.

    But I believe that our most shining examples acted with a healthy balance of idealism and pragmatism.

    I believe most black voters have this mix of idealism and pragmatism, and for this reason, they will pull the lever for Obama, even though he is not the cookie cutter black partisan.

  13. sixseven

    The way I see it is that BO has two options.

    He can continue doing his delicate, political dance, which seems to be working for the time being, or he could resoundingly embrace Dr. Wright, assert his afro-centric culture and heritage, as some would have him do and in so doing, give white America a big symbolic finger.

    If he chooses the latter, he might as well fold up his tent and go home. Is that what we want?

    Cut the brotha some slack. There is somethig to be said about being the smartest lawyer from the best school in the country.

    He is mortal, hence fallible, but I believe his superior judgment in this thorny issue will ultimately be vindicated!

  14. Pater Fam

    If you cannot see the difference between BO and Billary, then I feel sorry for you.

    You might as well as stayed home. And you might as well shut down this blog, because as Jesse Jackson says, when you dont vote (which you basically did) you lose your right to complain.

  15. Deyvette

    “It’s a lonely walk STRUGGLING to bear your cross alone and it would be at least so much more comforting if we all walked in solidarity carrying our crosses with you.”

    -Andrea

    Another Arbitrary Interview :)

    Obama: I believe this system can work. I love America for what it’s really worth. If I don’t appear to be a sellout how can I get their votes?

    The white liberal vote is essential for my candidacy. I am not a sellout; I just make myself appear as such. I love black and white people. My strategy is to lock the liberal white votes down, and have the black vote by . I’ve studied the history of black people, we just vote for those who look like us without a follow up on their political history.

    This is essential part of my strategy to have my people. A real sellout does not just sell out with words, but with action attached to the words he or she speaks. Black people can say that I’ve sold them out with my words. They can say that I have sold out the black church with my words alone. And Yes, my old uncle is right/wright, I speak as a politician, and as a player in a game.

    They don’t understand that I’m player in the game on a world stage. This is not a lightweight game involving two races that have minute differences; this is a major game involving a variety of races with major differences with black people at the bottom. When playing chess one has to calculate a strategy to win, sometimes this strategy can elusive to the opponent, because the opponent may not know the depth of precision involving his a variety of moves.

    In other words, I could appear to be going one direction, and have a completely different direction in my head. How else am I going to be president if I don’t play the game well?

    “This is Chess not Checkers”

    Cliff: Mr. Obama the time has come for you to show some affinity to the black community. You can no longer run, you can no longer hide, black people need to see at least some of the unapologetic attitude that your old uncle has taught you.

    Obama: Perhaps that time has come, for me to at least show some measure of my blackness, so to speak. I know can only play the political game so much. I think the time has come for me to at least stand and deliver a sermon of ties to the black church, my African heritage, and my roots here in America. And pehaps Andrea is right I will has to pick up some of the pace in the walk to bear my cross, and my cross will bear Change.

    “CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN” :)

  16. Cliff

    From Cliff, not Deyvette. :)

    “It’s a lonely walk STRUGGLING to bear your cross alone and it would be at least so much more comforting if we all walked in solidarity carrying our crosses with you.”

    -Andrea

    Another Arbitrary Interview

    Obama: I believe this system can work. I love America for what it’s really worth. If I don’t appear to be a sellout how can I get their votes?

    The white liberal vote is essential for my candidacy. I am not a sellout; I just make myself appear as such. I love black and white people. My strategy is to lock the liberal white votes down, and have the black vote by . I’ve studied the history of black people, we just vote for those who look like us without a follow up on their political history.

    This is essential part of my strategy to have my people. A real sellout does not just sell out with words, but with action attached to the words he or she speaks. Black people can say that I’ve sold them out with my words. They can say that I have sold out the black church with my words alone. And Yes, my old uncle is right/wright, I speak as a politician, and as a player in a game.

    They don’t understand that I’m player in the game on a world stage. This is not a lightweight game involving two races that have minute differences; this is a major game involving a variety of races with major differences with black people at the bottom. When playing chess one has to calculate a strategy to win, sometimes this strategy can elusive to the opponent, because the opponent may not know the depth of precision involving his a variety of moves.

    In other words, I could appear to be going one direction, and have a completely different direction in my head. How else am I going to be president if I don’t play the game well?

    “This is Chess not Checkers”

    Cliff: Mr. Obama the time has come for you to show some affinity to the black community. You can no longer run, you can no longer hide, black people need to see at least some of the unapologetic attitude that your old uncle has taught you.

    Obama: Perhaps that time has come, for me to at least show some measure of my blackness, so to speak. I know can only play the political game so much. I think the time has come for me to at least stand and deliver a sermon of ties to the black church, my African heritage, and my roots here in America. And pehaps Andrea is right I will has to pick up some of the pace in the walk to bear my cross, and my cross will bear Change.

    “CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN”

  17. Rp

    I like your site, as well as your insight. But this time you are plain old trippin. I just saw Dr Wright in January of this year and he knew it was coming. But he supports BO. He is running for Prez, read his 2nd book. He goes on record saying some of the choices he is forced to make are no wins. I like them both. Good quality brothers. You probably cant see the forest for the trees, take a break and come back stronger. I looked so forward to your supporting this phenomenal brutha. Your choice…………

  18. Brown Girl

    As usual, thanks for pointing me to this interview. I thoroughly enjoyed it. I am not a Christian but maybe I would have been if I had been exposed to such a brilliant, dynamic and inspiring Pastor as Rev. W. Listening to him really lifted me up.

    After having finally gotten to hear the statements, I’m reminded of how EVIL the American media is. They’re the one who made a big deal out of nothing and they are the ones to blame for misinform the American public every time, passing off empty nothingness for true content. They’re one of the biggest problems in America, I’d say.

    Anyway, SB, I understand your point of view even though I do not share your perspective. As Rev. W said, he does what he has to do, Barack does what he has to do and by extension you are doing what you have to do.

  19. Good choice Skeptical brotha. With more single issue, ideological purists we’ll be able to celebrate the inauguration of John McCain next January. My God, with all that is at stake in this election, and considering the incalculable damage done by Bush, I am dismayed that this manufactured Rev. Wright crisis can keep good people like yourself from voting for Obama. Do we want four more years of this nightmare?

  20. credo

    As an independent voter, I have struggle with the issue of guilty in voting for a Democrat, Obama. And it did not help watching Obama in Alexandria, Va pander to voters beyond raced whites. But there was a little boy at point that can on stage with Obama, who was not raced white. Too me this put the whole Obama thing in a new perspective, my vote is bigger than Obama.

    Obama represents a change in America, that has not be witnessed by folks ever in the history of America, and that’s what will guide my decision to vote for him as soon as I get that ballot in my hand.

    A change that goes beyond Ain’t I A Woman by Sojourner Truth and beyond the Talenth Tenth. S change that requires African-Americans to get off their asses, out of the clubs, to stop smoking their weed, inhaling their crackpipe, putting not their liquors, putting their hair and nail appointment on hold and get to the damn polls and send a message to America.

    The message that Jeremiah Wright spoke about on Pbs. Obama is a politician. A vote elects a politician Obama is not running to be a minister in the church.

    Every vote counts.

  21. The more I think about this, the more it breaks my heart. I keep telling myself that I won’t go back to read your blog, but I still keep coming back in the hopes that you will regret that you did not support Obama in his hour of need. I don’t know why, but I think that part of me keeps believing that anyone can find redemption.

  22. john in california

    Well, sb, maybe it would give you a different perspective if you went down to your local Obama office and talked to some of the people working hard to get him elected. They aren’t fools.

    And OT, but anybody that wants to spend about a half hour trying to understand the Byzantine method by which the Democratic Party actually selects delegates should read the following blog, blue Indiana.

    http://www.blueindiana.net/showDiary.do;jsessionid=628E07936590B8F8A4896337F1AE6B5A?diaryId=2430

    It left me with the following:

    1. A headache
    2. A question: “What happened to one man/woman, one vote?”
    3. The realization that I could never explain the process without a cheat sheet
    4. Hating the Democratic Party (more!)
    5. The conclusion (once again) that the only way that Hillary can win is if limpballs Operation Chaos (Indiana repubs switch parties to vote for Hillary) becomes reality.
    6. Whatever happens in the fall, the primary system must change. The obvious is state wide at large delegates with no supers and all round off errors to be pooled into nation wide at large delegates.

  23. Okay, SB, I respect your decision and don’t worry about not feeling courageous because it takes courage to stand on principles, even when you stand by yourself. I’ve been there, done that, and at the end of the day, I can sleep at night knowing I didn’t compromise when I shouldn’t.

    Having said that, Obama further compromised by going on Fox News and giving an interview to that weasel, Chris Wallace. He had ample opportunity to call Fox out on their race-baiting and smear tactics; Wallace asked questions that would have allowed Obama to come on the real, but that brotha took a pass.

    I swear, Cynthia McKinney is looking more and more like she will get my vote, because Obama is making it as difficult to vote for him as it is for me to vote for the Borg Queen, and that’s saying plenty.

    Vertigo, I never like to count anyone out short of redemption – I hope that for all of our sakes, Obama finds his, and soon.

  24. thatguy

    I think SB is a little to self-involved for his own good.

    He is blinded to the big picture because the entire world revolves around him.

    And I don’t for one second believe that you held a ballot in your hand, anguished, for 20 minutes in order to make a decision. An incredible flawed, selfish decision based on oversimplified views and a hysterical outlook.

    All of this overly emotional, sappy ranting of how butt hurt you are over Obama’s decision to distance himself from his pastor’s comments is all getting to be very tedious. For all the intelligence you posses, you sure seem to be stuck on stupid re: this entire Rev Wright topic.

    I know it makes for good writing on your blog and the dramatic flare of your style of writing.

    But give me a break. One would think that this is your first election ever. Your naivety astounds.

  25. This is an excellent, excellent post.

    Thank you for your courage and honesty. People who can not appreciate the Black tradition of questioning the substance and authenticity of Black representation – no matter how beautiful and charming they may be – are still stumbling along the trail of maturation. They’ll be alright once they gain their footing.

    Keep up the good work.

    Terry at terryhowcott.com

  26. P.S.

    Let us be clear, you are NOT by yourself. You do not stand alone. There are hundreds of thousands of people who are raising these exact same concerns.

    T.H.

  27. Rick

    “Let us be clear, you are NOT by yourself.”

    Well, from what I heard him say last night, Pastor Wright certainly is NOT, but the Clintons and their supporters certainly ARE also standing right behind this decision.

    You do understand that one less vote for Obama automatically translates into a direct positive for Hillary don’t you? That’s because in a two person race, the gains are zero-sum.

    Despite all the rhetoric about the witch being dead — language I’ve heard here and have opposed — why don’t we all just coronate the Queen today and declare that we’re quite satisfied being used and manipulated as their political pawns and footstools?

    At least then the impact of our actions and talk would be consistent, and in accord.

  28. Angie

    Last night when I read this post, my heart ached. But I don’t exactly know why. You told us what your actions were going to be. You left no rooms for our imaginations to hope that you would change your mind.
    So, why do I feel so conflicted by your post? Why is that I couldn’t rest well throughout the night? Was it because I hoped that you would just silently cast your uncommitted vote?

    Last night, I went to bed with so many thoughts, endless thoughts parading in my head. Thoughts that invaded my dreams… Thoughts that greeted me this morning when I rose from my sleep that was void of real rest.

    I thought about how casting a vote with no preference is like not voting at all. But the only difference is that the person that casts an uncommitted vote gets a chance to wear the “At least I voted and didn’t waste my forefathers blood by not voting” crown of glory.

    Then I thought about how ridiculous I think it is for those who have distanced themselves from the black church at one time or another, for reasons that was clearly or unclearly convenient for the flesh, could turn their nose up and condemn someone who distanced himself from the black church for reasons that was convenient for him.

    I thought about how this “black church” that people are defending has a deficit of committed soldiers that are willing to risk their personal comfort to fight the many battles that the “black church” has failed to see real victory and progress.
    How many of us, who have mustered the nerve to spank Senator Obama for distancing himself from “the black church” have lent the “black church” our talents, our insight, our passion, our, time, and our money? Perhaps Senator Obama is only one of many who has distanced himself from the “black church” when it was convenient, too painful to stick with, or too annoying to ride it out.

    Before I drifted off to my unrested sleep, I thought about how sad I was that your vote not counted, but my vote was not counted either. You see, I haven’t been able to talk about this because it was too painful. But the day of the Texas primary, my precinct wouldn’t allow me to vote. They said that my registration was not valid. Somehow, when I updated the address on my Texas ID, my voter registration supposedly didn’t get updated. I felt cheated. I felt denied.

    What you don’t understand, SB, is that people like me, the disabled, the disenfranchised, the working poor, the least of us, do not need to see another term of Bush politics in office. The people that come into my office looking for financial relief in this dying economy do not need another president that will refuse to endorse a minimum wage and social security payment that will match the rising cost of living.

    So, the vote that you didn’t cast, and the vote that I didn’t get a chance to cast was a vote against the interest of those who don’t have a voice, those who are forgotten about by the educated, the rich, the black nationalist, and even that great black church that you hold up so dearly.

    When I woke up this morning from my unrested sleep, I was reminded of my junior year in undergrad. I attended this black nationalist organization. The reason why I said attended is because I never got a chance to join. To prove that you were a down ass soldier for the cause, you had to read a bookshelf of down ass books, and then take a test to prove that you had all the down ass knowledge to declare you were a down ass negro. Well, I never got around to taking that test. The organization broke up and crashed before I could “prove” myself.

    Well, one thing I noted about the members of the organization is that they were angry. Mad as hell at whitey. Mad as hell at black folks for not embracing the “fight” and for not rejecting the shackles of “global white supremacy”.

    The only people they respected were black heroes that were in books. Black heroes that had lived, and someone had documented and compressed their life within the pages of a book.
    It’s interesting to me that the only people that many of us can find that is worthy of our respect are people that we have never met, mainly because they have been dead for one, two, three generations. It’s interesting to me that the only people we can justify respect for are people that life stories have been selectively pressed down in the pages of a book.

    Here’s what I wonder. If many of these heroes were alive today, for us to see “all” of their actions, would we think they are so worthy of our respect and support. Just wondering… At work, but still thinking…

  29. Rashad In DC

    Skeptical Brotha,

    I used to come to this site to read your thoughts and the opinions of others. But now I’m like what da hell is he thinking. Not for one second do I believe you stood in a booth for 20 minutes antagonized over a selection between Lady McBeth and Obama. And then you write this BULLSHIT posting as if we all are supposed to just feel your pain in this situation. This flowery and overly exaggerated essay. Come on brotha be for real. I agree wit dude above. Take a break and do something else for a change cause you have taken this crap to a whole new level.

  30. Wright’s appearances:

    Moyers was a plus
    The NAACP was a plus.
    The National Press Club was NOT A PLUS. I take that back..the speech was fine…the Q&A session was NOT. It finally provided the MSM the ‘soundbites’ they wanted.

    Speak truth SB – he was wrong to do the National Press Club.

  31. Rhondacoca

    Rikyrah,

    I agree.

    The Moyers interview, the NAACP and his speech at the National Press Club were all pluses.

    However it went through the window with the question and answer session. He could have left out the Obama “being a politican…” thing. They were waiting for soundbites and got them. The speech that was pre-prepared was good but once he went to the Q&A…it was not so good.

    I am happy that he spoke out in defense of the black church tradition, the church and himself however the Q&A part is what the media will focus on and they have enough to work with.

  32. The media getting away with the crap they do is just one more symptom of the real problem, namely the large segment of the electorate that are just plain dumb asses.

    Maybe it’s poor schools, maybe it’s consumer culture, but vertigo’s observation is all too true…a lot of voters are just too easily fooled. Obama has to play to these morons and he probably still will be rejected by them anyway. That is the state of the union 2008 in a nutshell. Like KRS-ONE asked back in the day, “when’s it gonna stop?”

  33. Like I quoted Cube from Boyz in the Hood, Black folk got too much religion anyway. This issue plays right into the hands of the racists anyway you shake it; Wright is a win-win for them no matter how you feel about him. In the end, however, those who were going to have a problem with Obama over race are simply using this as an excuse to go with the White canddiate (be it McCain or Clinton), and there’s no net gain or loss from the fallout in real numbers, votes you can count on.

    How many of us have seen or heard a Rev. Wright on some Sunday or in some conference? Why do we owe him any more or less deference than any other Black clergy? IMO he gave a humerous, enlightening speech at the NAACP conference Only exception: as my pops pointed out, a lot of the research he used as support has been discredited academically. At any rate, it’s too bad he’s been made a pawn in this thing.

    He’s got his own reputation to consider, he clearly has to defend himself, so he’s going to go to any venue that will listen. It’s better that he does this now than later for Obama. I don’t really expect him to be too concerned about whether it helps or hurts Obama. I’m obviously of the opinion that in the end it isn’t going to make that much difference except that the press has something to talk about other than how weak a candidate Clinton will be in the general election.

  34. Like I quoted Cube from Boyz in the Hood, Black folk got too much religion anyway. This issue plays right into the hands of the racists anyway you shake it; Wright is a win-win for them no matter how you feel about him. In the end, however, those who were going to have a problem with Obama over race are simply using this as an excuse to go with the White canddiate (be it McCain or Clinton), and there’s no net gain or loss from the fallout in real numbers, votes you can count on.

    How many of us have seen or heard a Rev. Wright on some Sunday or in some conference? Why do we owe him any more or less deference than any other Black clergy? IMO he gave a humerous, enlightening speech at the NAACP conference Only exception: as my pops pointed out, a lot of the research he used as support has been discredited academically. At any rate, it’s too bad he’s been made a pawn in this thing.

    He’s got his own reputation to consider, he clearly has to defend himself, so he’s going to go to any venue that will listen. It’s better that he does this now than later for Obama. I don’t really expect him to be too concerned about whether it helps or hurts Obama. I’m obviously of the opinion that in the end it isn’t going to make that much difference except that the press has something to talk about other than how weak a candidate Clinton will be in the general election.

  35. Anon 1

    SB, you made the right decision. WHile I differ with Barack on alot of Political issues, I’ve always felt Obama never stood firm when face with controversial issues. I am not surprise about his whole distancing act. Any man who can throw their granmdmother under a bus for political reasons would do so to anyone. TUC was just a means for BO to launched his political career.

    BO is not a descendant of slaves so his perspectives will be always different. His ancestry can be one of captor and enslaver. Too many black folks do not like to talk about the role Africans played in the slave trade. If it wasn’t for the black man in Africa, none of those Europeans would have been able to capture our ancestors. They knew the land and could outrun any of those Europeans.

    Obama history of voting absent on controversial issues, should have been an early indicator he is not a fighter for what he believes in. Obama is a liberal elite with radical white guilt friends. He grew up in academia not the streets of Chicago.

    Anyway, I’m a conservative sis so I better not rant to much about Obama least I offend your readers further. And he has the audacity to call Jeremiah Wright a nutty uncle in the antic!!!!!!

  36. imhotep

    I been reading your site for sometime now, never responded, because if i didn’t agree at least I was informed or entertained. Originally from Chicago, I’ve been To Rev. Wright’s church several times over the years. This situation with the Rev. has twisted my stomach. We all know that the powers that be were going to make it difficult to have a Black president, if not bordering on the impossible.
    But as I see the Rev. Wright issue being blown out of proportion, I’m beginning to rethink my opinion. Maybe America doesn’t deserve to have a president like BO? Maybe those middle class “reagan” democrats deserve to get exactly what they want. They wanted Bush, and now they’re singing the blues. They consistently vote againt their own economic interests, and tend to let cultural issues dictate what side they are on. And yes they do “cling” and are “bitter” But what gets to them most is the idea that Black people are passing them up. The idea that a Black man has the gumption to think he can lead white people, in a country that was not designed for the African -American to succeed, or reach a position of power over them. Unfortunately, even if some complain to the contrary, these people, these “reagan” democrats will never vote for a black man, period. The Clintons know this, so they provide the rationalized cover for these people to “cling” to their racist or xenophobic ideology, without having to deal with the racist branding. (white) Americans prefer the stupid route, time and time again, especially if the alternative is proposed by someone other than Bob Whiteman, or requires maturity or an open mind.
    I never was under the illusion that BO would be the “savior” of black interests because he would spending all his time trying to please people that don’t want him in that position. I just wanted to feel pride in a country for about 15 minutes, that dismissed all the crap and recognized BO is by far and beyond the best and logical choice. His election would instantly knock off 50% of the negativity that the bush administration constantly spews forth daily. Pride, that a brother finally got over the biggest hump. But
    while I’m rooting for a quarterback and hopes he escapes the clutches of those that would maul him, the bigger picture is I recognize the game for what it is. The game is the problem. It’s a game for land-owning white males (go look up who was originally allowed to vote) anything else and you are falling for the illusion, or image of the beast. If a brother does get into the “game” he is going to do what the owners, coaches tell him, period. He make look damn good doing it, but believe me it’s in the playbook. If anything the democratic race pulls the cover off what people color all over the world know…Until the actual “game” changes… no, that’s not truth. The truth is, the time for the USA as we know it is coming to a close. 2012, earth shift, global warning whatever, people who are enlightened see drastic change coming, and it won’t be pretty. BO could soften the blow to some degree, but there is a new way to perceive life
    and the organizing principle around it coming forth. And the small minority that has dominated the earth for nearly 2000 years, time is coming to a close. BO appearance on the scene illuminates this reality just a bit. But the US of A is not feeling it, not conscious of how close the end of things as we know them is. So pehaps we will deserve exactly what the majority want… A manipulative, lying, bi-sexual, control freak (H. Clinton). Or a senile, corporate warmonger, who wants constant war until Americans feel safe ( J. McCain)? When will that be? When will the surburbanite mother of 2, feel safe. The answer is they never feel safe, ever.

    PS,. One more point to be fair. I think Rev. Wrights’ position is valid but he’s throwing BO to the wolves because he can’t submit his ego to the circumstance. He could’ve easily been quiet until after the election but his ego wouldn’t let him. Many Christian “preachers” have this problem as well. Relying on their own perception and cleverness to interpret the words from a book, that was edited for control and deception of the masses. Once again an issue of rooting for the machinations of a game that is designed for you to lose. To Rev. Wright either tell the whole truth uncut, without cleverness or shut the hell up. Rev. Wright is serving himself, not God, his flock or BO. And for a man as intelligent as he is not to control his ego, tells me he is missing the message that he preaches. Very similar to the ego-based mistakes of perception that the Pharasees and the Saduceess of the NT. And the same for many Americans…”We can’t be wrong, God is with us, or God is on our side or blah, blah, blah”
    OK, keep thinking that at your own risk.

    Heart-felt appreciation and gratitude for those who seek enlightenment. Peace B with you.
    Imhotep

  37. Deb

    SB,

    “…why do I feel so guilty, shattered and empty.” Because that’s what it feels like when you decide to stand for something more substantive than symbolism – your own beliefs. It’s a lonely place to be – at first. But trust, me it WILL get better.

    I’m with Terry on this one, “Let us be clear, you are NOT by yourself. You do not stand alone.” I stand with you.

    Hang in there man, you’ll be a stronger, better man for it!

  38. CHange

    Via (Ben Smith Blog)

    Obama: ‘He does not speak for me’

    Just in time for the evening news, Obama responds to his former pastor’s media tour. Per Zeleny:

    “I think certainly what the last three days indicates is that we’re not coordinating with him, right?” [Obama said in a late-scheduled presser on the tarmac in North Carolina]. “He’s obviously free to speak his mind, but I just want to emphasize that this is my former pastor. Many of the statements that he has made to trigger this controversy are not statements that I’ve heard him make previously. They don’t represent my view and they don’t represent what this campaign is about.”

    [snip]

    “People will understand that I am not perfect and there are going to be folks in my past – like Reverend Wright – that may cause them concern,” Mr. Obama said. “But ultimately, my 20 years of service and the values that I’ve written about, spoken about and promoted are their values and what they are concerned about. That’s what this campaign has been about. And will continue to be about.”

    [snip]

    “Some of the comments that Reverend Wright has made offended me and I understand why they offend the American people,” Mr. Obama said. “He does not speak for me. He does not speak for the campaign.”

    [snip]

    “None of the voters have asked about it,” Mr. Obama said. “Now, there may be people who are troubled by it and may be polite and are not asking about it.”

    ——

    Hillary represented the Black Panthers in the 1960s and never backed down from doing so to this day. Barack Obama would never have stand up to a media attack if that was him. I don’t like either of them but you can vote for one without demonizing the other. Perhaps they should both run on the same ticket.

  39. TripLBee

    Anon 1,

    Just a response to the ludicrous assertion that Barack is somehow not really authentic because he is not a descendant of slaves. First of all, you should brush up on the history of colonialism in Africa. Secondly, do you think that because he is not a descendant of American slaves he somehow has managed to avoid the black experience in this country? That is absurd. Do you think that cops and shopkeepers and teachers and other figures of authority somehow took a look at him and knew that his father was Kenyan and thus decided to treat him differently than the millions of other people who look like him? Where the hell did this ridiculous notion come from? I know that even a few intellectuals (Cornel West) have veered into this madness, but it defies all logic. If you look like Barack, you’re gonna have a black experience, whether you want to or not.

  40. The way I see it, Obama and his ex-pastor are two separate people, with the right to express their views and the pastor can say what he wants to, because this is America. I like Obama. The pastors sermons and comments don’t affect me one way or another, but what Hillary said last week about Iran, really, really bothers me.

  41. Yesterday was my grandmother’s 79th birthday. I am reminded of one of her favorite sayings, “One monkey don’t stop no show.” Indeed. I told y’all about how I voted and my struggle with it because I felt it was the honest thing to do. I never told you to go out and emulate me.

    I explained in this post and in another about what will not work for me. Dissing the Black Church, and distancing oneself from an honest preacher, like Jeremiah Wright, simply doesn’t work for me. Disingenuous apologies to skittish white folks ignorant of our history and traditions in the Black Church don’t work for me either.

    Some of you choose to ignore this debate as insignificant because the singular opportunity to have one of our own in the Oval Office is too tempting to pass up. I understand that intimately and that was why I struggled for those twenty minutes before the poll closed. I had two choices: ignore it and vote for him, or protest it by voting no preference because I can’t.

    I couldn’t ultimately ignore the significance of this distancing act. I know some of you are angry with me and I acknowledge it. I am not going to tell you that your anger is misplaced. It is what it is.

    Some of you believe that I threw my vote away but I can assure you that I didn’t. Two of the three African Americans running for statewide office got my vote. In fact, I voted for every race on the ballot.

    10 years ago, I was a candidate for office in the Democratic primary and I didn’t vote for myself. I didn’t vote at all. The reasons are unimportant, but I don’t take voting lightly, which is probably why, with one exception, I have voted in every state primary and general election for the last 18 years. I’ve made no decision about the fall. When I do I’ll let y’all know.

    Lastly, nothing is going to stop Barack Obama from obtaining the nomination. Nothing. Hillary can pull out all the stops but we all know that it is too late. After all, like Mama says, “One monkey don’t stop no show.”

  42. Anon 1

    tripbee,

    Perhaps you should take that issue up wioth Tavis Smiley. Find out why Barack Obama refuses to discuss black issues with black commentators. SO far Obama has ducked every black forum since his campaign has taken off. I did not say Obama is not authentic, however I do believe he lacks the fight for what he truly believes in. His views are to easily frameed for what is politically expedient. Hence, his opposition to reparations and hesitation to express views on controversial issues.

    Jeremiah Wright has truly opened up the true discussion on race in America and Barack Obama will have to take those issues on. Be fearless as Martin Luther King, Malcolm X and others before him.

    I do believe he will win the nomination. Sadly, I am not sure who the real Barack Obama is. Shelby steele said it best. He is a “Masked Politician.”

  43. “I never told you to go out an emulate me.” SB

    And that you didn’t. But Skep, you know as well as I know that your platform provides you with influence. The platform that you have built on this blog and other public places has provided you the opportunity to make an impression, to steer, to sway, to tip the scales.

    You underestimate the volume of your trumpet. Brotha, while you may not have many of us (those of us who regularly visit and comment on this blog) convinced, others, who do not know that they have the capability of thinking for themselves, read your words and are sold on the idea that Obama is a spineless coward.

    Skep, I have a couple of questions for you.

    Do you think that Obama is lying when he said that Wright’s words were offensive to him?
    Do you think that my 62-year-old, black daddy is lying and stupid when he said that Wright was wrong for what he said?

    You may not believe this but it is possible that there are some, including Obama, that disagree with the words and the timing of Wright’s words.

    What’s a trip is that there are some that have given Wright a free pass to say what the hell he wanted to say. But those same people would have a stroke if they heard all of the TBN’s best preachers explanation of why 911 happened. Wright said it was racism and social injustice that was punishing America. And the christian right said it was homos, lezbos, and murderous mommies to be.

    And here’s the truth regarding what I thought about Wright’s comments. I heard it, mostly agreed with it, and under normal circumstances would have moved on from it. I guess it’s because me, the victim of growing up COGIC (And yes I said victim.), has given me the opportunity to hear all kind of rhetoric pouring from the preacher. Some that was right on. And some that was dead wrong. But most of the time, the words that I hear from the top dogs in church is mixed with truth and error.
    But as soon as I heard the excerprts from the sermon, I knew that it was bad news for Obama. I knew that he had to distance himself.
    I’m like Cliff and the line from Training Day. “It’s chess not checkers.”

    Honestly Skep, I’m not mad at you for exercising your American freedom to vote the way you did. But yes, I think that you should understand that you going into the voting booth and voting the way you did is not just a silent vote. When you come here and blog about it, you amplify, enlarge, boost your vote.

    Lastly, I didn’t want to get into this, but I will. It’s funny to me that this black church that we are defending so much when it comes to this one situation is the same black church that has distanced itself from the least of us.Obama distanced himself from the black church.
    But I will tell you this… The black church, in their lack of action and love, have distanced themselves from the heart and needs of the black community.

  44. One more thing…
    I was thinking today about this whole matter. And for some reason, out of no where, it struck me that maybe, just maybe Wright staying silent after the media firestorm was a mutual agreement by Obama and Wright. Honestly, I don’t think for a minute that Wright and Obama are not talking and consulting with one another.
    But here’s what I was thinking today… I wonder if the most recent comments from Wright is his way of helping the media drive the wedge between him and Obama, just so people can see that they are two different individuals.
    Preachers think they are slick. Don’t think that Wright and Obama haven’t sat down and hatched some kind of plan to spin this. Black pastors specialize in that.
    The media think that they are smart.

    Black preachers, well some of them, are smarter.
    Know that.

    It’s no doubt in my mind that Wright is a brilliant man. Wright knows what’s up.

    But with all that being said, I think we need to brace our selves for JM. We, Americans of all colors, are handing over the oval office to him.

    I wonder if this black church that we think needs defending so bad will help me with my bills in the next few years. Probably not… They’ll be too busy doing what they’re so good at doing. Pretending that shouting, clapping, tithing, and flying to conference after conference is going to solve all of our problems.
    Oh well…

  45. SB,

    “Some of you believe that I threw my vote away but I can assure you that I didn’t. Two of the three African Americans running for statewide office got my vote. In fact, I voted for every race on the ballot.”

    I am not one of them. I feel exactly as you do. I voted for very important local issues here in FL despite the possibility that my vote for the presidential nominee (Edwards, because at least he had the guts to speak to race right out of the gate – whether any of you thought he was sincere or not)might not count.

    Voting for the symbolism of a Black president is not all there is for me. We’ve got a slew of problems for which we need to be voting. There are MANY people running for office in the trenches who REALLY are fighting for substantive change (don’t know what’ll happen once they’ve been in for awhile – that “burning house” mentality is so damn tempting to some). I wish as many of us had been so fired up about issues affecting us long ago – maybe we’d have REALLY been “in the game” and transformed it by now rather than “hoping” the senator’s election will do that (which I don’t believe it will).

    No, one monkey don’t stop no show, especially when the show is politics as usual. And in the interest of full disclosure, whether she wins or not, I chose Sen. Clinton once my candidate suspended. I struggled with that decision for a number of reasons as a Black woman, but it is one with which I can live.

  46. Mashawa

    I still don’t understand how some people work so hard to miss the point and then go through long agonizing posts full of literary gynmastics about white privledge, black church tradition, and of course the “is he black enough” diatribe in a effort to ensure Obama has no responsibilty at all for what is happening to him.

    Obama got a complete pass from the media in the first 8 months of this race. And now everyone is agast at the hardball nature of politics, when he gets ask some tough questions. What has turned me off of Obama is how he pretends to be indiginate that we would ask these questions. Its as if he feels he’s above it…and he is not! And this Jeremiah crap. Jeremiah is a fool, a media clown if I’ve ever seen one. Obama would do well to distance himself. This crap about he should support the black church…would you if your church spewed that crap? If this is the state of black church tradition, why aren’t more people embarassed. That was nothing to be proud of and certainly not what I let into my life! At least now we know one of the sources of hate in America, at least thats an upside. And….since when are we not supposed to care what influence a would-be president of the USA has throughout his life? When did a candidate become off-limits becauses he’s black? So its fair to say that everyone else in Obama’s life made him the man he is, EXCEPT of course the negative ones…sheesh..are you kdding me…..just listen to ourselves on the news….I’m embarassed for all of us that are so enamored by his black skin, and desparate for a black leader that we’ve given him a pass and never vet him on the core issues and capabilities. Damn, at some point he has to stop acting like he’s running for senior class president and butch up.

    I’m truly done with Obama, regardless of color, he just another elitist liberal acting as if he has an idea of what the rest of America is like. Sorry, not buying it. To much bun, not enough meat.

    Done with him and his traveling circus of race baiters, blame-america-firsters, and lack of depth on any meaningful issues. I certianly don’t want that crowd influencing national policy from our white house any more than I want the other two.

    Nothing more here that another product of a liberal ivy league education and the old chicago politcal machine…..not for me. Now I need to find a new candidate…..oy

  47. TripLBee

    Anon 1,

    Tavis Smiley has about as much credibility as Robert Johnson these days. Obama was campaigning for the Iowa and New Hampshire caucuses when Smiley had his summit this year. Reasonable people might agree that it was more important for Obama to stump in Iowa a week before that contest, than to attend a summit sponsored by a man who the prior year suggested that Obama “wasn’t black enough.” Tavis Smiley has a bug up his ass about Obama. I live in Chicago and Obama has been all over black radio here for years.

  48. Cliff

    “Obama further compromised by going on Fox News and giving an interview to that weasel, Chris Wallace. He had ample opportunity to call Fox out on their race-baiting and smear tactics; Wallace asked questions that would have allowed Obama to come on the real, but that brotha took a pass.”

    TPJ He is just pretending to be a SELLOUT.

    He is just playing chess. :)

  49. SB,

    I wanted to share that I understand. I’m not coming from the same place of emotional turmoil, but I did go through a similar situation while voting in Missouri on Super Tuesday. Only since I’m a pragmatist my problem was I didn’t know who to vote for. They both had identical voting records, I found neither of their views offensive and all differences were superficial, about personal like v. dislike and tone. I wasn’t too affected over Obama’s attempts to allay whites and I wasn’t too off-put by the Clintons’ willingness to truck out some Jesse Jacksons in SC.

    It also did not help considering that while I found neither candidate displeasing at the time, I didn’t think that either of them could win in a general.

    I just don’t vote based on emotion, so I didn’t know who I was voting for until I stepped in the booth that day.

    I voted for Obama.

    Everyone has their reasons. I thought I would vote for Clinton if I was being truly pragmatic, but even that didn’t make sense. Both of them were audacious choices.

    I’m fine with my decision which came down to something very superficial, the fact that if I’m going to pick between two candidates with identical voting records, striving to make history I was voting for Obama. I could relate to the guy trying to navigate so many different levels, trying to maintain a black identity while possessing an integrated identity while trying to open up more people to discuss race while trying not to turn them off. I could relate to the dance of “twoness.”

    Plus, I hoped that if he were successful, maybe people would sack it up and not remain “stuck on stupid” over gross materialism, ignorance and stagnant thinking.

    It’s a top-down strategy to help black people, but I’m willing to try anything once.

  50. john in california

    “Lastly, nothing is going to stop Barack Obama from obtaining the nomination. Nothing. Hillary can pull out all the stops but we all know that it is too late. After all, like Mama says, “One monkey don’t stop no show.”” – sb

    I wish I still thought this was true but with all the wingnut hate machine against him and almost half the dems ready to toss him off the boat you may just be whistling past the grave yard. I no longer think it is a sure thing, regardless of the current and project delegate count. Just look how this one controversy is not only fueling the wingnuts but dividing his supporters. This a war, folks. There is no Marquis de Queensbury rules holding the media, Clinton or repubs back from doing everything they can to make Obama unelectable. In a war, you can argue about tactics but God help you if you lose faith in the righteousness of your cause. If you can, commit to going to your local Obama precinct office and roll up your sleeves. There is a lot more to do than just talk.

  51. LoveTruth

    Wow…some of the people on this thread is so, so, so stupid and short sighted its ridiculous.

    SB, I respect your decision. I voted uncommitted in New York. I was in support of DK but I had a feeling that he would not get too far. I am not sure about Obama and I hate Hillary. If it comes down to Obama in the general (which it probably will) I will vote for him because I cannot take a chance with McBush.

    “Lastly, I didn’t want to get into this, but I will. It’s funny to me that this black church that we are defending so much when it comes to this one situation is the same black church that has distanced itself from the least of us.Obama distanced himself from the black church.
    But I will tell you this… The black church, in their lack of action and love, have distanced themselves from the heart and needs of the black community.

    I wonder if this black church that we think needs defending so bad will help me with my bills in the next few years. Probably not… They’ll be too busy doing what they’re so good at doing. Pretending that shouting, clapping, tithing, and flying to conference after conference is going to solve all of our problems.
    Oh well…”

    Angie, you obviously go to shallow churches with shallow ministers. Are you aware of what Wright and his church have done for his community? Are you at all aware?? I know of many churches that have given a lot back to their communities.

    The issue with some of you are this blog is that you have a distrust with the black church that you make blanket. So yea, lets throw our 200 year church tradition under the bus for political expediency.

    Lets throw our culture, sense of being, fight and traditions threw the window for symbolism. What’s next black children? I find that AA’s are not being smart (as usual) with this.

    I am actually very offended by that.

    I understand that Obama is in a tight spot however when someone compromises themselves in order to pander, he loses himself.

    For those claiming that Wright has an ego, please evaluate your own. He has been lynched by the media. He has all right to defend his church and himself. I think that it helped Obama. The media would not say but it did. People were able to see a more humanistic side of Wright. They were able to see him for who he is. That is better than someone judging you based on soundbytes.

    I live in New York and the city has been upset about the Sean Bell thing. It is a pattern that seem like it will never change. The NYPD abuses their power out here in NY when it comes to minorities. Yet we are all running down a black man who told us to “Respect the Verdict”…”We are a nation of laws” because he has too.

    I do not see Obama as a stand up guy. He can stand up without being confrontational or even offensive. People would respect him more than they do.

    This whole lets compromise bow down and throw our culture, traditions and sense of self out the window to get a black man in the white house is un-nerving. To get a black man to become to the face of a white supremacist society so that our country can continue to deny the truth about social injustice, double standards, institutionalized racism, police brutality etc…is unfortunate. They will have a puppet who will be bowing to their will to dangle in front of us when we bring up certain realities.

    How much more will we have to deny and condemn for symbolism?

    Sounds great…”Yes We Can”?=/

  52. SB,

    I respect your decision not to vote for a Presidential candidate, but, there is a bigger picture. Like you, I hated the way BO handled the Rev. Wright situation, but I understand why. I don’t like when people dictate to African Ameicans who we can/cannot associate with. Throughout history White America has used this tactic as a way to keep us apart, as a way of control. African Americans need to take stand up against this type of tactic. We must tell other groups that African Americans will not tolerate it. But, we need to know when to take that stand. BO cannot afford to take that stand but other African Americans can on his behalf.

    BO had my vote from the time he announced his candidacy and yes at first it was because of race. My vote was for BO to lose. I have no problem admitting this, nor do I feel bad about it. I have supported candidates in the past from other racial groups without a problem, so supporting BO was a no brainer.

    To Mashawa,

    The only reason BO got a free pass in the first 8 months was because mainstream media didn’t expect him to have a chance to win the nomination. When he first announced he was running for the nomination, he wasn’t Black enough. This was a way to keep the African Americans vote from him. After he won Iowa people started noticing him. It is the white vote that is putting BO over the top. AA make up 13% of the population. Not all 13% of the AA population can vote, for one reason or another. To hear mainstream media it is just AA who are voting for him, not true. Now that he is winning and has secured the AA vote he is too Black. This is a way to keep the white vote from him. At the age of 41, I know when the race card is being played, it is being played. Racism is alive and well, just in a different form. The more things change the more things stay the same.

    I fully understand politics. I don’t have a problem with a candidate being asked tough questions, but this is too much. BO is not the only candidate with issues as it relates to support from religious leaders. Mainstream media does not talk about those religious figures, I wonder why. I attend a black church and hear some of the same type of preaching from my pastor. It is not anti people but anti policies. Policies that lead to injustice. This world is in trouble including America.

    Don’t be embarassed for us because some people are enamored by his black skin. I too have that same black skin. It’s nice to see an African American man have a legitimate chance to be President. Black men have not always faired well in our society. Why is it a problem when AA suport other AA? Other racial groups support their own and it is not a problem, it is expected of them.

    I don’t think Obama needs to apologize for his upbringing nor his education. We need to applaud him for it. Hopefully, AA boys can look at BO and say I want to be like him. I want to be President of the United States.

  53. Rick

    “Wow…some of the people on this thread is so, so, so stupid and short sighted its ridiculous.”

    TIME OUT

    We can all disagree with each other, however it would be much appreciated if you refrained from calling people stupid.

    (if anything — just between you and me — it looks very ignorant to others for you to assume a name like ‘LoveTruth’ and then write a post making you come across as a condescending jerk, no matter how well intended your post was meant to be).

  54. sixseven

    “Preachers think they are slick. Don’t think that Wright and Obama haven’t sat down and hatched some kind of plan to spin this. Black pastors specialize in that.”

    Angie,

    Interesting, but way too diabolical …even risky. Both men are far too bright to pull that stunt. A move like that could never remain hidden and it would be calamitous once it were revealed.

    I ain’t mad at the dapper Rev though. In fact I find him entertaining and accomplished academically, militarily, linguistically and even sartorially.

    I think the good Reverend assessed the entire flap and concluded that he was as much of a man as the skillful Senator and that he would be damned (there goes that word again) if he would defer to Senator Obama or anyone else for that matter, presidential ambitions or not.

    And so he addressed the engaging NAACP audience yesterday and inspired by their rich support took a bounce into the National Press Club session today, stuck it in and really twisted it, as if to say… “Take that!”

    Again , I ain’t mad at him. I too am sick of folks telling us who our leaders should be, or how we should talk or how we should dress and what is “acceptable” speech. BS! Isn’t that one of the liberties that the soldiers are supposedly defending viz, the right to speak freely or was that intended to be the right of only “some” people to speak freely!!!

    MSNBC, CNN, FEAU NEWS…It’s raining Jeremiah! The MSM has latched on to this with the fury of a hungry pit bull. This is journalistic lunacy.

    In an inscrutable kind of way, I won’t mind it one little bit if BO doesnt ascend to the CIC. The next pres will be inheriting one monumental mess.

  55. LoveTruth

    I’m sorry Rick, if I offended you or anyone else but reading black blog from black blog…its sickening me big time.

    Black people love to throw everything away. I like Obama but he has done and said things that have made me realize that he is more of the same.

    I have attended Wright’s church because I grew up in Chicago. My mother died of AIDS when I was 12 and it was Wright’s church that she was sent to to get counseling. I lost my mother and it was Wright’s church that raised money for me and my brother. We remained in foster care. I went back to the church when I was a messed up teen. I moved to New York shortly after. To hear people slam a church, a congregation and a group of people they do not know is disheartening. It makes me realize the reason why so many are lost. Black people have compromised and kissed ass to get nothing in return. My brother was working with the obama campaign as a paid staffer but left due to some things that were going on.

    I have always liked him but never was interested in supporting him unless I have faith in him.

    The arrogance being spewed by Obama supporters is ridiculous.

    I find the willingness to bash the black church now that it is not acceptable to be offensive…more offensive than saying that it is stupid.

    That is the condescension.

    If your church is Creflo Dollar shallow then I apologize that you don’t seem to understand that there are many churches that are not like that. If it were not for the black church, I probably would have ended up in a bad predicament as a motherless child on the South Side of Chicago. I work with churches in Brooklyn in aiding the community esp. the young people. Protecting the black church, one of our greatest traditions is important. It has been the only form of public space we have had to congregate and fellowship. People use the church for the wrong reasons, I know that. However to make blanket statements is not right.

    The fact that the people on this blog are so expedient with it is unfortunate. Its a part of our history. If there were no black church, there would be no civil rights movement. It was the black church aiding the communties when this country did not give a damn. Some of you are worse than whites when it comes to understanding it. If you are not willing to save the black church from attack then do not celebrate MLK day. Wow…

    TheFreeSlave has a great article about Obama called “Pasteurized Black” its good and its the truth.

  56. DoubleGee

    Sorry, you were feeling conflicted at the polls…was this just a bad dream you had, or did it really happen?

    It’s a struggle for us all to discern the truth from lies in this campaign year. But we have nothing to fear but fear itself. If Obama wins, he will catch so much hell coming in to the WH behind W!! So we are voting for him for our own self-interest. Is that a bad thing? I don’t think so, but I realize there are dangers. But you know what they say “faint heart never won fair lady”, and I will support my candidate because he’s the real deal. If the MSM and crazy GOP conservatives don’t like him, he must be my kinda guy! If HRC and Bill can’t stand him, he must be OK! But never, will I be swayed to vote against my own best interests.

    Rev. Wright has proven that he can defend himself and his church, just fine, thank you! Obama needs to run this race like he wants to win it, and stop apologizing when white people who will never vote for him anyway, get upset about something he says! Deal with it, and handle your business – YES WE CAN!!

  57. Mama said tonight, ‘ He clowned for them White people on purpose – to hurt Barack’. Indeed he did, Mama, which is why Obama needs to divorce himself from Wright IMMEDIATELY.

    After Wright’s performance today, Black folk shouldn’t come down on Obama anymore. They should have when this first shook out because those were soundbite snippets.

    Today was a full-on ‘shock’ performance of the highest order.

    And since we saw that he can do better (Moyers and the NAACP Dinner), what conclusion could one come to, other than this was done ON PURPOSE TO HURT OBAMA. He displayed Crab-in-a-barrell to the nth degree, and I am hurt as hell.

  58. LoveTruth

    Rikyrah,

    What was so offensive?

    Was it his demeanor? He is like that. He is expressive…very expressive .He had no intention to hurt Obama. I think that he was trying to throw it in the media face…that they are uniformed hypocrites. ‘Not everyone gets all tidy for whitey’ (as my late grandfather used to say)

    I do not think he was doing it to hurt Obama.

    I do not think that he is a crab-in-a-barrell after saying all of the wonderful things he has said about Obama? No.

    He could have done and said a lot of things in the past year to actually hurt Obama if that was his intention.

    Is it the fact that the media making a big deal out of it because they are looking for a story? I find that the people on these blogs are acting a bit tense. If the soundbites did not derail him then this would not. I think people will judge Wright accordingly and I think that him speaking out has introduced him to the voters. People are seeing him as seperate individuals. Obama also made that clear this evening.

    If Obama wants to completely cut him loose then fine. He is running for President and he has to do what he has to do.

  59. Rick

    LoveTruth, I have a better sense of what you are saying now. thank you for sharing your perspective on the church.

    We are all hurting over the Sean Bell incident and racial injustice period. But you lashing out at Obama supporters is not going to bring him back, or solve any of the problems you profess to be concerned about, including the church. what we need is not more angry venom, or lashing out on board members. If you had a question for sister Angie, you could speak to her like human being, and she would do the same. civil conversation.

    trust me, you aren’t changing a damn thing by calling anyone stupid. but what you can do is channel some of that anger and join with others in the community,including the church, to work positive change. just consider it.

    ————-
    A TIME TO HEAL AND ACT!
    A Town Hall Meeting on
    the Sean Bell Verdict

    Tuesday, April 29, 2008
    Doors Open at 6:30 PM

    Brown Memorial Baptist Church
    484 Washington Avenue
    Brooklyn, NY 11238
    (at Gates Avenue; “C” train to Clinton-Washington)

    All in the Community are Invited.
    There Will Be Dialogue That Will Move
    Beyond Words to Positive Actions.
    ———————————————————-

    Let’s walk the talk.

  60. LoveTruth

    Rick,

    You obviously are misunderstanding me and your obvious arrogance doesnt match my “anger” does it.

    “But you lashing out at Obama supporters is not going to bring him back, or solve any of the problems you profess to be concerned about, including the church.”

    Bring him back? I didnt ask that. I am speaking about the way in which Obama supporters conduct themselves. I am not alone in that. Other Obama supporters have said the same thing. I am writing on a blog how do you know what I do during the day?

    I know Brown Memorial and I was just there the other day. I have attended events there before. I have been “walking” and “acting” since he got killed in 2006. I know about that event. I have been telling people about it. I cannot attend because I have a speaking engagement in Queens on the same matter. I am speaking to young people about the violence that they perpetuate on each other. It is in honor of Sean Bell but it is taking a different approach. I speak to young people about violence after my roomate’s cousin was murdered in Brooklyn for his iPod. I speak in honor of Christopher Rose (1989-2005). If the police have no problem killing us then we should not be killing each other. I also speak to girls and young women about issues that effect them.

    I am not an angry person but when I hear people ripping a church and a man that aided my mother on her dying days and helped raise money for my brother and I….I get offended..period. When people are looking to slam the black church tradition and in doing that, a part of our history because it is no longer acceptable….that is my issue.

    I am not all words. Far from it…I think that some of the people that I am reading on these blogs are all words. So you tell me to walk the walk when you do not know me makes no sense.

  61. LoveTruth

    “just consider it. ”

    Wow. I missed that. Just consider it…you mean consider doing things that I made clear that I did at various churchs and organizations?

    Or mabye I can sit down and “respect the verdict”

  62. Angie

    “The black church, in their lack of action and love, has distanced themselves from the heart and needs of the black community.” Angie

    Let me stop and apologize to any black church member that I may have offended. If your church is busy serving the needs of the people that live in their community, feeding the hungry, paying the utility bills of the impoverished, and mentoring the youth, I wasn’t talking about your church.

    I would never bash the black church and not give them credit for what they do. I was merely trying to make a point.

    My blanket comment was intended to describe the hundreds of black churches who decorate our neighborhoods with their steeples and signs, have church for hours within the walls of the church, but never bring the ministry of Christ outside of the walls. My comment was referring to the black churches that have proven to be quite effective at splashing olive oil on a problem, but not taking the time to create plans, programs, and actions to solve a problem. My comment was directed at the black churches that take so much time telling women and girls that they can’t wear pants and make up, rather than telling her she can rise above the mediocrity that so many of us are so comfortable with resting in each day of our lives.

    But as I aforementioned, I wasn’t talking about “all” churches. I’m no fool. I know that there are many churches doing the good and sometimes tiring work of the Master.
    And I never, never said that Trinity was one of those black churches that I said had distanced itself from the heart and needs of the black people. So sorry that my comment about the black church was not more clear.

    “Angie, you obviously go to shallow churches with shallow ministers.” Lovetruth

    Sadly, Lovetruth, although I don’t go to a shallow church now, I have been too exposed to these ministries that you have described as shallow. So maybe, just maybe my views on the black church is tainted by all of the shallow, ineffective, abusive black churches that I have been exposed to.
    What’s interesting is that I’ve been exposed to all kind of churches. I’m been a member at a Baptist congregation, A COGIC congregation, a mega ministry congregation, and guess what…
    Now I’m a member of no congregation.
    You want to know why, Lovetruth. My black church, a very large black church, as well as many other ones that I called, refuse to pick me up to attend services. Most say I live too far. The one that I’m a member of told me that I would have to stay for 8:00 and 11:00 service. I guess out of a membership of 2000, they couldn’t find one member of our black church to pick up me and my mother, whose health is extremely poor, and bring us back home after one service.
    So, right now I’m hunting for a ministry that understands the ministry of Christ. I could care less if they have a good organist, a hot choir, or a daycare. I just want to know if the next black church I will call home loves all of God’s people, even those of us that are fractured and broken.

    “Are you aware of what Wright and his church have done for his community? Are you at all aware?? I know of many churches that have given a lot back to their communities.” Lovetruth

    I am aware. Again, I wasn’t directing my comment towards Trinity. I also know a lot of churches that are giving back. A mega church that I used to be a member of comes to mind, and another church, a small church, here in Houston pops in my head.

    “The issue with some of you are this blog is that you have a distrust with the black church…” Lovetruth

    That’s probably true. Pray for me.
    But Lovetruth, I’m not so bad. At least, I trust God.
    In fact, I love Him. That’s why I want us, those of us who have the talent, the gifts, the resources, the time, the passion to stop expecting Obama to be our political/social/spiritual savior. But instead take up the cross and save ourselves by never forgetting, never getting too busy, never being too inconvenienced to not only talk about God, but to show the love of God.
    Yes, the black church has a lot of history. But the goal of the black church and any other church should be to carry out the work of Christ.

    I submit this post with love and a sincere desire to dialogue, to exchange ideas, but not to pass out insults.
    Lovetruth, I’m frustrated to. We all are. But one thing I’m not is stupid. And I certainly would never declare you as such.

    Peace,
    Angela

    P.S.
    Sorry for the long posts today. I guess I’ve had a lot to say. But I feel some urging now to be quiet. Catch you later.

  63. Angie

    Before I sign off, I wanted to make it clear to any of those who wonder that my church experience, my black church experience likely different from how it is in the north. The south is riddled and crowded with church after church, which many of those churches cannot be guilty of being effective.
    Perhaps you, Lovetruth, better understand my experience and position on this matter.
    If not… **shrug** Like I said, pray for me.

  64. LoveTruth,

    He was clowning, plain and simple. There were so many different ways that he could have said what he said without clowning.

  65. Chesapeake

    rikyrah,

    Dr. Wright was the one primarily villified over the last month. He apparently purposefully deferred to Senator Obama and allowed Obama to defend himself and explain away their relationship in the manner Obama and his advisors saw fit.

    Agreed – the Q&A segment at the press club provided fodder for opponents of Obama. But, how, logically, with the two being ACTUALLY so distant, what Wright says does not affect Obama. Logically.

    As to clowning, I disagree. Wright took some very direct questions and addressed them, straight-up, no matter how ridiculous and ill-informed the question and questioner. I found his indignation to be righteous.

    I don’t see the connection between the way Wright defends himself, his scholarship, and his sermons, on the one hand, and whether one should vote for Obama, on the other hand. I’ve clicked or turned away from every headline and copy line that says “… Obama’s former pastor ….” That’s not his name, and he’s contributed much more than pastoring Obama!

    Now, it’s time for Obama to drum up some courage to express some indignation against draaawwwing this “connection” thing out! Maybe it would help if he or a surrogate could say “… let Dr. Wright speak and listen to what he has to say …!” He should give Wright his due at some level!

  66. Andrea

    Rikyrah,

    Clowning? Clowning?

    Then I guess you call Fannie Lou Hamer getting Uppity clowning too? She was really loud and considered tacky because she did not give a fuck about being dignified. Clowning?

    When Harriet Tubman threatened fellow slaves, she was not proper and refined and bourgie. She was grimey. She was “Ride or Die”

    When Frederick Douglass was told to get off of a train, he refused and held onto the seat. And the men who tried to remove him could not overpower his strength. Frederick Douglass got loud and as we think now, TACKY. He was rugged. This man who always wore a suit held on tight to the seat until the seat came up out the floor. He told them he was not giving up his seat and literally was UPPITY and defiant and showed out instead of being contrite while they were trying to “put that Nigga off the train”. He would be considered today as CLOWNING to you.

    And Dred Scott had the audacity to sue his master. How tacky, right?

    And Lena Horne threw an ashtray at some racist hecklers that was trying to distract her and ruin her performance. What? She was clowning, right? Should she have just displayed contriteness and not gotten UPPITY?

    Do you not understand, Rikyrah how double-conciousness is whippin’ your ass and your mother’s mindset to not be able to see that you comply with understanding that Rev. Wright had to PERFORM dignified.

    Vernon Johns was a hellraiser. He upset the very congregation that hired him and they thought he was UNDIGNIFIED in front of Whites because they wanted him to be PROPER. I guess they too thought he was clowning.

    When are we going to understand W.E.B. Dubois was pinpointing that this here we do in thinking that how Rev. Wright BEHAVED it was UNDIGNIFIED and a crime committed against Barack Obama. Rev. Wright owns himself and he owes an obligation to duty to truth. He was not fake. He was not obtuse. He was sick and tired of being sick and tired and sick and tired of HAVING TO DANCE.

    You are expecting that he should have DANCED yesterday and been more contrite when the reaction of the people thinking he was arrogant and egocentric not realizing that White People act like this everyday all day long — they do it calmly with their righteous indignation of being superior to dictate to you, Rikyrah, that you see yourself knowing how to perform in their presence.

    They’ve got you. They’ve got your mother’s mind too. They have socialized you and raised you to interpret yourself as if you have to perform THE RIGHT (WHITE) WAY and beg and barter for their consideration to listen and understand. THE MAN IS PISSED with being forced to SHUCK AND JIVE and when I here people here criticize him of being too impudant, they don’t realize that if Dr. King was alive now, you would be judging him the same way.

    Dr. King performed and got tired of it. Malcolm never performed. Fannie Lou Hamer never performed. Ella Baker never performed NICE and DOCILE. Just listen to what the news is saying in how they frame this.

    The news stations are trying to repress THE CONVERSATION that Barack sold the country to get himself out of hot water. So this is the CONVERSATION. This is the conversation being repressed again to fit to the comfort needs of the controlling group and you have adhered.

    There are so many polls out that Americans are saying this is this campaign is too dirty and that people want it to be over. I sat back the other day and thought, “This is some bullshit!” White People are uncomfortable because they know only more is going to be released and however nice and neutered Barack makes himself of sanitizing his Blackness, The Conversation will finally have to come. They know just by seeing him the 40 year interrugnum is going to come to an end. This shit is bigger than Barack and the Presidency. The Clintons have not been as bad as Whites I grew up knowing and Whites that terrorized me the past few years. But according to us…those of us who grew up safeguarded to not know how dirty it can get, you all fall for it too. You are shell-shocked by this little bit of grime to not realize YOU ARE NOT READY for the truth and YOU ARE NOT READY to lead. YOU ARE NOT READY to fight.

    Most of us here think they are ready and that they know but you don’t know what is going on and have never been prepared for this. We are all being tested. This is bigger than Barack. This is not about the presidency. This is a 40 year prophecy of walking in circles trying to get to the Promisedland. We are living the equivalent to a Bible prophecy of the blind, the know-it-alls, the chattering class, and the hardheaded pissing Divinity off to be left to wandered for 40 years (1968-2008) in turmoil destructive.

    I swear I feel like Moses felt when he threw those tablets in anger because he returned to a people who were supposed to be on track and listening to who was left in charge. They discounted The Word because they thought they knew so much more than Moses when he was just a messenger and put in charge by God. This is the parable. We are like hardheaded Israelites that can’t see we are not that smart and we only ensure our continued punishment to wander in decline as a people.

    How Rev. Wright exhibited yesterday was Uppity and a Jewish woman on CSPAN approved of it yesterday and I would think because she knows her history and she knows prophecy. Rev. Wright was not clowning — he was Uppity and refusing to behave the way they wanted. In several interviews he showed us graduated and various sides of himself. And he did this to make sure we saw all of him. We saw him PROPER and DIGNIFIED in the Eurocentric socialized way and then he showed how he will get if you fuck with him and his crew.

    If you heard while they were setting up, the same White Woman asked a question to one of Rev. Wright’s team members and the team member (the Sista in the grey suit) said, “No, that’s your job!” When I heard it I thought, “Ouch, she’s Uppity. I like her!” I knew before he started speaking in seeing Rev. Willie Wilson in the crowd that it was not going to be some neutered performance of an impotent Black Man PERFORMING for White Approval or Black Acceptance either.

    Y’all just don’t know. Normally Black People PERFORM for public display and they could be fighting behind the scenes in a racial fight but we don’t get to see it because we decide to perform as DIGNIFIED and that then sends a message to us as model behavior to emulate. So we nip ourselves and then get mad and wonder why people like here don’t get what is going on in how we fight for power in racial fights.

    Rev. Wright was helping us to see the TRANSPARENCY of what you wager to say you want to be truthful. He was saying, “I am going to be truthful right down to showing you my ass to kiss”. Barack does not have that within him. He has never had to fight that Beautiful Struggle and has only but simulated a lot of us to try to be down. I am half of Rev. Wright’s age and I am younger than Barack but I know what is because I have lived it.

    Rev. Wright was not clowning. He was pissed and he did a Frederick Douglass.

    If you think that Frederick Douglass was all bourgie and proper, you are wrong. Historians sanitize all rebels to trick you into emulating the sanitization.

  67. rene

    I don’t agree with Barack dejecting his pastor and all, but I’d vote for him if it keeps the Clintons or another Republican from getting back in.

    Again, he’s a politician- we will not like everything he says or does… it’s about positioning one’s self. Let’s not go into denial here.

  68. RhondaCoca

    Andrea,

    I agree with you. When I was watching it yesterday, I saw a man that was being defient on purpose. He was trying to prove that he is who he is and refuses to bow down to white sensibilities and attain white approval. It was afterwards when everyone was making a “stink” when I was wondering if he could have just compromised.

    I agree with you assertions, blacks have compromised much too much. They have allowed their voices to be silenced and traditions/cultures/identity to go misrepresented all for personal gain.

    While I am in support of Obama like I have said here and I know the tightrope he has to walk, his safe negro thing can get to me at times. That is his performance, his act. He needs to do it. However it does make me wonder how much of that he embodies. Wright is a different person. His own person. He has been doing his ministry for years when the O-man was still a child. However he must shut up sit back and allow people to misrepresent him, his church, black Christian theology and black political thought.

    When he said that the black church has been an invisible entity along with the black people, he is right. Wright is a transformationist. Transformationists have been silenced.They are looked at as too radical to some. I think that he spoke truth to power and after reading various blogs and threads on different sites, I have come to realize that Wright embodies the black man that America hates. They are speaking more about his demeanor than his words. He was not docile, quiet…they described him as “fiesty and defient”…blacks in the presence of whites are told that they should not be like that. That was the issue. I do not believe that he really said anyhting that got them enraged other than the living and breathing truth.

  69. TripLBee

    LoveTruth,

    I’m really sorry about your mother. I know that Trinity was one of the first black churches in Chicago to start an AIDS Ministry. It’s a wonderful church. My family and I attended services there on Sunday and the place is just overflowing with love. Rev. Moss appears to be a worthy successor to Rev.Wright.

    Truth be told, I do wish that Rev. Wright would lay low until after the election. I know that he’s been treated unfairly by the media, but they have no interest in treating him fairly and are going to continue to create distractions every time he opens his mouth in public.

    I’m a little confused by all of the anger towards Obama. He knows that the media is running a game on him with this Rev. Wright nonsense, but he’s in a no win position with this thing. He still has my support. I hope he has yours as well.

  70. Kimberly

    Keep questioning those pols. Keep ‘em on their feet. If more white folks did that, we wouldn’t have a Bush in the White House.

    Pissin’ at the Media gets the media pissed. Colbert learned that, and it seems like Rev Wright was taking another lesson.

    The world won’t end because Jeremiah decided he wanted to give back to the media what they gave to him.

    I am white, and I endorse Barack Obama. Hell, my Republican inlaws voted for him in the Democratic Primary (just a few days ago). They didn’t seem bothered by all the fuss about his pastor.

    So sit down folks, the party’s just starting.

  71. NJC

    Some people have questioned whether Obama and Wright planned together. Yes, sort of…

    Wright told the New York Times a year ago:

    “If Barack gets past the primary, he might have to publicly distance himself from me,” Wright told the newspaper with a shrug in April 2007. “I said it to Barack personally, and he said, ‘Yeah, that might have to happen.’ “

    http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/04/29/wright.bio/

    They both knew, they both were going to do what they had to do at some point.

    And now that I think about it A YEAR AGO Wright knew Obama was not going to take a tough stand in Wright’s defense. Or they both knew this whole thing was going to be used to cripple Obama, and they prepared — casually maybe, but definite awareness.

    So, Obama never threw Wright under the bus, since they knew this was coming and knew what they would probably each have to do.

    My assumption is: in the election process they knew it would likely be impossible to address this issue. Right or wrong, that’s the way it went down.

  72. Akech

    Could it be that the Black race is contented with feeding from the crumbs that fall from the master’s table even if what is on the table is harvested from his/her sweat or land?

    The Neocons designed the IRAQ war. Yet, one hardly hears any public repudiation from the community associated with the NEOCONS in the media to the magnitude that has been accorded to Rev. Wright’s issue.

    What I am trying to ask here is: why must Black Community, repeatedly, fall into the trap of exposing their non-monolithic views to the media which has become a vehicle used for making sure that Blacks stick to eating the crumbs falling from the tables?

    The presence of thousands of religious organizations in USA and elsewhere in the world indicates that there are diverse opinions about religious practices. Why then is it okay for those who never felt comfortable with Blacks in their temples/churches to budge into the Black Churches now and start dictating the acceptable preaching tone to the Black Church Leaders?

    One of the answers could be because Black communities everywhere have failed to discuss their diversity privately. This failure has enabled the media driven control freaks to drive trucks into this diverse group and make Black diversity a weakness for exploitation purposes! The Black clergy has become the means through which the “segregated black people attending these churches are exploited”. All a politician has to do is to talk to a black pastor to secure his flocks votes. Bill and Hillary are very good at this.

  73. Andrea,

    He made it through two days of making his points and providing no soundbites. If Moyers had been a disaster, the NAACP had been a disaster, then the NPC would be nothing unusual. But, Moyers and the NAACP were both successful. I know you all are down on Obama, but Wright was wrong at the NPC.

  74. Andrea, I don’t think the Rev. was clowning either. But I do think he’s getting played. The media is using him as a distraction from the real issues. This is something they specialize in. If he’s smart he will turn the thing around.

    People are slowly starting to wake up from their slumber and realize that something is seriously wrong with the current economic trends and maybe they can’t blame it all on the lower economic classes that are the usual scapegoats. So the media does what they do best and start banging the drum louder.

    This is where the Rev. Wright can really make an impact. He has been given the stage and now he needs to use it wisely. The best way to do that is to hold up a mirror to the purveyors of lies and genocide, the Media. He needs to ask them how they got played by the Bushies as fools, or were active accomplices in the Iraq fiasco. He needs to point out the poor treatment being received by war vets. How the government is actively accelerating the growing gap between the haves and have nots. He needs to quote scripture left and right, because there is plenty of scripture that nicelly encapsulate the crimes and hypocrisy so pervasive in our ruling class, just as there was two thousand years ago.

    Once he does that they will run away from him, because he will no longer be useful to their divide and conquer strategy. They will have to look for another source of distraction.

  75. Rob C

    SB, as Pastor Wright himself had expressed, Obama had to distance himself. I pray with you for your friend’s brother and their family.

    We concern ourselves with matters that are under ‘god’s’ control, not our own. We are to do only what is in our control; vote (and, keep SB living; “viva SB”). I envision Creflo and Olsten moving aside: LOL.

    Wright is a Marine, make no mistake. Barack is a highly educated and networked, Chi-town, Politician. Left jab, Right Hook. The Art of War is not lost on those who have not fought militarily. The divide of this home is not pre-considered. Obama must be about all of us, not SB principles of Obama blowing himself up.

    Obama and Wright have the nation on the ropes. It can vote McCain or Clinton, however, the dialogue that is being raised about race, religion and freedom of association cannot be swept under the rug (hopefully), or twist the words of Wright, should the media -mistakenly- follow him; which I would love.

    America unknowingly needs Wright and Obama cannot say what the former says. Anyway, you have the perogative to change your vote…that’s on you.

    Obama’s responding to Wright’s arrival. Gotta Gooo!

  76. Anon 1

    Obama is having a pess conference. He just threw Jeremiah Wright and Louis Farrakhan into the sewer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  77. Andrea

    Rikyrah,

    I just read Obama’s comments from his press conference and he is a bitch-ass. He is a low-down, duplicitious bitch-ass. I’d punch him in his face right now if I can find him. I’m tired of these New Model Negroes co-opting Blackness for their convenience. (A Black Woman at the job hates other Blacks but she sure did accept a fellowship for Blacks at American University. Stuff like that! And she is considered a PROFESSIONAL among White Liberal Elites in the office. They love her compartmentalized, crazy self while we know how she performs to gain and get ahead of us, the rather more grimey, heart and soul Negroes.)

    I’m a “Ride or Die” chick and what Obama did was again, political expediency. He did exactly what Whites always wanted him to do in deny his Blackness. So with it, like BlackSnob wrote, he took on the continuum in denying as Peter.

    Wow…and this is the model of leadership you are rooting for? He is a bitch-ass. I would call him a
    _ _ _ _ _ but I have never called anyone that word before. He fits the bill though.

    For months the White Liberal Elite pressed him to deny his Blackness. So after 20 years in a church he has found the cultural inconducive for his vision. I mean…what? What kind of bullshit is that?

    So…oh…he was using the church for cred and research to simulate us. But now that it is inconvenient, he slowly denies to feel pressed when the White Racists whip him to then deny us. So all that sitting in church was to pass out business cards and do research and development for a political career.

    I smell some funky shit.

    This all reminds me too well of the Overseer having the fellow slave of Kunta Kinte to beat him.

    And just like the overseer yelled, “Say it again. Say it louder so they all can hear you (so they know to give up hope)”.

    Yeah…just like slaves watched Kunte Kinta get beat, we actually watched for almost 2 months the Right, White Liberal Elites, and even Blacks too beat the Blackness out of Obama. And they did it in ways to shame him of being Black and his response shows me, HE WAS NEVER PROUD. NEVER. He co-opted us with political ambitions. That church…it was access to power.

    Rev. Wright was fighting for his soul this weekend and yesterday and look what he did.

    “For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?”

    Mark 8:36

    This was going to play out like this and he still might win now…now that he has said, “My name is Tobey”.

    And just like the overseer said, “That’s a good Nigga. Cut him down.”

    You, Rikyrah, have a hand in this. Rev. Wright was fighting for his soul when you thought it was a material campaign.

    I’m salty. A White Man threatened me Saturday at Gallery Place because I talked back to him and then I told him to go ahead and hit me since he brought the threat to my attention. I walked into him at that point to help him hit me so I could push on them damn tracks. I saw a train coming. Rikyrah, it’s like that now.

    I saw him shiver. He had to realize I was just as crazy as he was. I just don’t know…when White Men are trying to handle Black Women in Chocolate City, you know it’s a wrap. I see how they rather wish for a Barack Obama to put me in my place or rather get rid of me. He obviously didn’t know that with me wearing my everday pearls I am always ready to fight for justice. Not Obama, he would have allowed that MF to talk to me anykind of way and continue disrespecting me in the name of his concept of transcending race.

    Nigga, Please!

  78. Well folks, we needn’t wonder anymore or debate what should and should not be done. The senator from Illinois just gave his 25 minute speech saying exactly what he’s doing.

    It’s a sad day for America I’m telling you. What this Obama/Wright thing – NOT the Obama candidacy – had BEGUN to do is open up some real, honest, albeit uncomfortable for some, dialoguefor once in the country. On various sites, I’d begun to hear people saying, “Hey! America DOES need to change! and “There’s truth in what this Rev. Wright had to say!”

    With the senator now saying – “He was a caricature of himself, and “performing” and that he was saddened over the “spectacle” at the National Press Club yesterday, etc.” (Andrea, yes, he was accused of “clowning”) – I wonder now if, or how the dialogue of truth continues. But one thing’s for sure, nobody has to worry about upsetting white folks anymore, I’m sure everybody’s feeling safer already.

    I gotta go and turn this shit off, Roland Martin and Don on CNN are killing me with exactly everything Andrea talked about this at 6:07 a.m.!!

  79. Andrea,

    Darling, your intensity is so powerful and challenging, but I have to ask you to dial it back when speaking to rikyrah. We know her heart and her heart is with all of us in the Diaspora. We can disagree, but lets not be so disagreeable that folk can’t hear the truth in what we say.

    I can always count on you to challenge me in ways that nobody can. Most of the time I don’t even know how to respond, which is why I don’t , but believe me, I hear you.

  80. Rick

    LoveTruth,

    You came onto this board calling people ‘stupid’ and my point was to clarify that you need to stop doing that. There is no misunderstanding because you stopped.

    I will let others decide for themselves if my statements were arrogant or not.

    Rick

  81. LoveTruth,

    Let me apologize for not commending you earlier for sharing your story and relationship to TUCC. It was the most powerful thing I read about the church to date and I was moved profoundly.

    Our Orwellian media love to castigate Rev. Wright as some kind of hate filled loon, but your experience is negates the lie. It is unfathomable why The Black Church has not responed in Trinity’s defense.

    Ultimately, it was that silence that compelled Wright’s response and Obama’s politically expedient disavowal.

  82. My concern is what Obama’s reaction will be later on because this will not stop happening. What the media, the right, et al wants to hear Obama say they are right — They were right to think the worst of black people. That black people are messed up and should be denounced as a whole so the views of the press, the establishment and the like can be validated and they can wipe their hands of the lot of us altogether.

    This will keep coming up and I’m just worried when will Obama hit a “Sister Soulja” too far and wind up breaking the hearts of millions of black people. Because black people are emotionally invested in Obama and what he represents and if he is given the choice of presidency or principle can you trust that we won’t get dumped and disappointed … again?

    And I want Obama to be the next president. I just know that if he was willing to bring up his grandmother’s prejudices and attempted to castrate Rev. Wright’s fire, what’s next? Because he’s in a bind here. This isn’t like with white Democrats who could suffer a Negro or two because it works in their favor. Obama’s in a dance of “pick me, choose me, love me” with the white majority and the people he picked, chose and loved first.

    And I don’t want this to turn into a melodrama where black America turns into a chorus line of Effie White’s bellowing “And I am telling you I’m not going” as Barack tries to figure out how to dramatically lower our expectations.

  83. Rob C

    Wright and Obama are too much for main stream media…It will tone itself down. Andrea, it takes all kinds to make up these united states.

    Without all the facts, we are so fast to throw Obama under the bus. Mis-Education…that was Wright’s advice; we all should heed this advice and re-read it.

  84. BLACK?

    ooooh!! oooh!! oooh!! I know! I know! PICK ME!

    I know why you feel “guilty, shattered and empty”! I KNOOOW!

    Because you stupidly equated Obama rejecting Wright with rejecting his core values. The man pretty much called him a liar for crying out loud! He is the antithesis of everything that Obama is.

    I feel sorry for you and other black people who think that Obama somehow “sold out” or was “pandering to white people” because he finally rejected that crazy ass who showed him and his campaign NO RESPECT.

    You all are the real sell outs.

  85. marc

    Skeptical Brotha should not have to settle for another politician that will sell you down the river, as well!

    I’d rather vote for Cynthia and let the Democratic vote count suffer. It is a statement to these politicians that there are alternate choices and we are going to choose them.

    Cynthia McKinney

    http://www.runcynthiarun.org/

  86. I, too voted today and cried. I cried because today my daughters voted for the first time. I cried because today I voted for a man I believe to be better suited for this nation than his opponent. I voted for a man…and only a man…that I pray will live up to his desire to make this a better nation for my daughters. Who did I vote for? Does it really matter? I voted for a man…and only a man…who, in the end, will be judged by the same standard and measure that we all will be judged and measured.

    It has always bothered, saddened, and even infuriated me that as an African-American you must be better than, smarter than, grander than others in order to be validated. You must walk in two worlds to be Black enough and not too Black. You must please everyone, agree with everyone, and be down but not too down. Yet, others not of our hue do not have to do the same.

    In the history of this Nation, no other presidential candidate has been held up to such scrutiny. No other presidential candidate has been required to throw or not throw an associate under the bus. No other presidential candidate has been required to defend his judgement, integrity, or family. No other candidate, not one. And why? Is he not a man and only a man as each of the 43 other presidents of this nation? Why must he be held to a higher and different standard or measure.

    Today, I voted for a man…and only a man…who I believe is the best candidate in this presidential election. In the past, I have voted for the man…and only a man who I believed was the best candidate in that presidential election. Today, I voted and cried because I voted for Barack Obama who is a man and only a man.

  87. WhiteGirl

    I have read this and cannot believe that a group of people who have come so far in this world these people who have fought so hard who risked their lives during the civil rights movement to just be treated with the respect they deserve as people as humans can actually believe this load of crap. Ok what more do your people want you have a black president was that not a goal of the black people the white people have given your people everything on a silver platter as a white person I am not entitled to near as much as a black person just because the color of my skin. And just because something does not go our white way as your people call it(witch happens all the time) do we cry racism no. Maybe we figure we didnt get the job because someone else might REALLY have been better at it, or some 20 year old black person who really knows nothing of the black power movement of the 1960’s and 70’s cried racsim and took it even though they are not qualified at all. And dont tell me your people today know anything about being enslaved that was 140 years ago LET IT GO you were not enslaved. You have freedom do you honestly believe that white folks have it easier please we struggle just the same. Yes in predominatly white areas the income levels are higher. You say this is a conspiracy to hold blacks down no MY people just worked harder to do it. Nothing was handed to them. The excuse that some group of people that has no power in this country any longer held them back doesnt work. If you want changes stop letting it be easy for blacks o obtain state aid not other race in this country has it so easy maybe that is where your conspircy begins that the goverment makes it to easy for the Majority of black people to sit on their ass and do nothing. I do feel the blacks who want to move forward get out of the ghetto those that work hard to become something and do something with their lifes.This site just makes the black people look ignorant and stupid.And those that are trying to get ahead cant because of people like you. STOP HOLDING YOUR OWN PEOPLE BACK BY HOLDING ON TO THE PAST MOVE FOWARD BE GRATEFUL FOR WHAT YOU HAVE AND STOP WHINING MEANINGLESS RETORICAL BS. Oh yeah another thing I see you keep mentioning god well let me remind you that the black people had this god forced upon them by what you call the white devil. If you are so into your being from Africa here is a idea go to Africa stop believing in the white god that was forced on your poor enslaved ancestors. And that minister of Obama’s should not preaching this in the name of White a God who sorry guys is probably holding your people back to.

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