Obama disses his Pastor

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Hat Tip: NY TIMES

CHICAGO, March 5 — The Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr., senior pastor of the popular Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago and spiritual mentor to Senator Barack Obama, thought he knew what he would be doing on Feb. 10, the day of Senator Obama’s presidential announcement.

After all, back in January, Mr. Obama had asked Mr. Wright if he would begin the event by delivering a public invocation.

But Mr. Wright said Mr. Obama called him the night before the Feb. 10 announcement and rescinded the invitation to give the invocation.

“Fifteen minutes before Shabbos I get a call from Barack,” Mr. Wright said in an interview on Monday, recalling that he was at an interfaith conference at the time. “One of his members had talked him into uninviting me,” Mr. Wright said, referring to Mr. Obama’s campaign advisers.

Some black leaders are questioning Mr. Obama’s decision to distance his campaign from Mr. Wright because of the campaign’s apparent fear of criticism over Mr. Wright’s teachings, which some say are overly Afrocentric to the point of excluding whites.

Bill Burton, a spokesman for the Obama campaign, said the campaign disinvited Mr. Wright because it did not want the church to face negative attention. Mr. Wright did however, attend the announcement and prayed with Mr. Obama beforehand.

“Senator Obama is proud of his pastor and his church, but because of the type of attention it was receiving on blogs and conservative talk shows, he decided to avoid having statements and beliefs being used out of context and forcing the entire church to defend itself,” Mr. Burton said.

Instead, Mr. Obama asked Mr. Wright’s successor as pastor at Trinity, the Rev. Otis Moss III, to speak. Mr. Moss declined.

In recent weeks, word of Mr. Obama’s treatment of Mr. Wright has reached black leaders like the Rev. Al Sharpton and given them pause.

“I have not discussed this with Senator Obama in detail, but I can see why callers of mine and other clergymen would be concerned, because the issue is standing by your own pastor,” Mr. Sharpton said.

Mr. Wright’s church, the 8,000-member Trinity United Church of Christ, is considered mainstream — Oprah Winfrey has attended services, and many members are prominent black professionals. But the church is also more Afrocentric and politically active than standard black congregations.

Mr. Wright helped organize the 1995 Million Man March on Washington and along with other United Church of Christ ministers was one of the first black religious leaders to protest apartheid and welcome gay and lesbian worshippers.

Since Mr. Obama made his presidential ambitions clear, conservatives have drawn attention to his close relationship to Mr. Wright and to the church’s emphasis on black empowerment. Tucker Carlson of MSNBC called the precepts “racially exclusive” and “wrong.” Last week, on the Fox News program “Hannity & Colmes,” Erik Rush, a conservative columnist, called the church “quite cultish, quite separatist.”

My Skeptical eye ran across this article last night and was reminded again of it today.  He won’t stand up for his Pastor but some of Y’all think he’ll stand up for us when its required.   Let go of your delusions about Barack Obama and see him for the craven political operator that he is. 

110 thoughts on “Obama disses his Pastor

  1. rikyrah

    SB,

    He was wrong.

    But, that doesn’t mean I’m not supporting him.

    I told you before that I’m not one of those White liberals looking at him dewey-eyed. Never have been.

    Until Al Gore gets into the race, I’m still backing Obama.

    But, I have to ask…has he taken the Dark Sith label from Prince Harold?

  2. dblhelix

    rikyrah: not one of those White liberals looking at him dewey-eyed.

    User LoneBlackMan posted a piece about this article at the dailykos website.

    Commenters decided that the issue is “not important” and that LBM posted a “troll diary.”

  3. “Erik Rush, a conservative columnist, called the church “quite cultish, quite separatist.””

    As opposed to the non-cultish Rapturists that re-elected Bush so he could bring about Armegeddon?

    Obama needs to fire his advisors and stand up for what he believes…oops…never mind.

  4. SB:

    You must have seen my post on this in the comments section.

    I have numbnuts responding to my “Obama – Triangulating Twit” post on my blog and how I “get on their nerves” in trying to take down a brotha.

    They are arguing that we’re not a monolithic group – yet flame me to hell and back regarding Obama. Especially now that he’s dissed his pastor…

    I got your back, bro. We must keep fighting for what’s right.

  5. Anonymous

    Too bad Obama is tied with Clinton in New Hampshire now. Your plans to drag him inot the dust for her won’t work there nor in Iowa.

  6. Anonymous, come out of the closet;

    No one’s trying to drag Obama in the dust. He’s showing that he’s quite capable of doing it on his own.

    How can you ignore the fact that he’s willing to diss his own Pastor because he wants the White House. The Bible is very clear in the Ten Commandments where God has said “I am the Lord thy God; Thou shalt have no other gods before Me.”

    Obama has made his quest for the White House his God, and not the one he professes to worship. So, NO, we’re not trying to take down Obama – he’s handing the blogsphere enough material to take himself down.

    PS: If you have read this blog, we’re not keen on The Borg Queen, either.

  7. Now I don’t come with a fight or a suitcase of feelings on this issue. In fact, I could know more about it, and am learning more. But I do have some thoughts for myself that I’m trying to work out in the general question on what it would take a non-White Male to be president, and what ought to be allowed. So maybe you would give your opinion on this.

    I, too, worry about allowing for any flex in a “leader’s” integrity. But given the fact that we live in the society we do, isn’t it true that by the nature of what threat to the White Male Supremacist culture a woman, a Latino, or a Black person is going to present; they would have to play it safe here and there, just to get in to esa Casa Blanca, you know? I mean, we can’t expect a Robert Franklin Williams, or a Zapata to be the “first” elected, right? There would have to be a wedge character first. One who appealed to the mainstream in many ways.

    At the same time, I completely feel you on the integrity thing. Where lies the slippery slope? If you let one piece of manipulation through, where do you draw the line before you have just another crooked pol? But then again, do we really expect any person who gets to that seat to be pure of intention? Incorruptable?

    So I’m wondering. Should we not allow for the hoops that a non-White Male would have to jump through to even get that close? Perhaps not. How much, if so? Where lies the line between doing what you have to to get there, and selling out completely? Is there a gray area? What are your thoughts?

    I don’t have any fast conclusions, but I’m thinking it would be unrealistic to expect a Black person, a Hispanic/Latino, or a woman to have to do no more than the White Male in terms of showing they are down with the Status Quo and THEN some. You know?

  8. rikyrah

    Is this Dark Sith’s FOURTH JOB?

    Damn.

    But, he’ll be with his homeboys on Faux News Network😉

  9. Another reason not to watch Fox News.

    Especially if he’s joining that delusional bunch of House Negroes they already employ there (i. e. Erik Rush).

    Somehow, there smells a conflict of interest with all these jobs. He sounds like “Hey, Mon” from In Living Color.

  10. I guess it didn’t occur to Obama early on that he might have to fight for the support of the African-American vote early on.

    It’s too bad his Pastor isn’t running…😉

  11. dm

    After you all tear down Barak, what will you have left ?

    Pimps and snake oil salesmen like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton ?

    The Willie Lynch syndrome is alive and well here I see.

  12. dblhelix

    Benjamin —

    Are you really local in MoCo? I’m thinking of getting a logo for a new business. Look for an email later today or tomorrow.

  13. dm,

    Obama ain’t Frederick Douglass or Martin Luther King, Jr. He is a craven political operator gunning for the ultimate power and seeks to convert us to the cause before he sells us out down the road. Grow up and Wake up, man.

  14. yogo

    That seems to be the undercover party line, either you’re with him or against him and to be against him is the whole “crabs in barrel, Willie Lynch, house N—, loves massa,” this is getting ridiculous. Seems to an organized response too.

  15. Denise

    I’ve seen a powerful quote, attributed to Maya Angelou, which states:

    “When someone SHOWS you who they are, believe them … THE FIRST TIME”.

    Actions speak volumes. You don’t have to like the message, but the message is what it is. Your response is up to you.

  16. rikyrah

    nezua,

    thank you for your comments. they were good food for thought, and have been what’s been going on in my mind for awhile now. It’s why I’m still with Obama.

    Please come back to the SB Blog. Yours was a good voice.

  17. Any black person who wants the keys to this kingdom, who doesn’t talk about changing it at the root from an oppressor nation to a nation that is truly about freedom and justice – is a traitor. F*#% Obama.

    And it ain’t Willie Lynch to point out a lying snake in our midst.

  18. Mg

    March 8, 2007

    We all have our points of view.

    I take the approach that first of all, BARACK OBAMA is a 45 year old African American candidate for President the United States in the year 2007. What a heavy and challenging task.

    Secondly, walk-a-mile-in-his-shoe on this one – I said, in-his-shoe – meaning knowing the givens at the time of decision.

    Having said that, I would recommend for the future, he would be better served to allow The Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. or any other target, to decide whether they wish to move forward or not.

    Thirdly, I give Barack the benefit of the doubt here. Will he make some errors, fumbles? Yes. But at the end of the day, he will have done the right thing. Give him time. Give him your best thoughts – not your poison.

    Lastly, speaking of poison, for those of us who feel profanity and profane “name-calling” is helpful and right on – You should think again.

  19. “Having said that, I would recommend for the future, he would be better served to allow The Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. or any other target, to decide whether they wish to move forward or not.” MG:

    It’s the dissing and distancing himself from his Pastor that’s upsetting my stomach, and no amount of Alka Seltzer is going to cure that. You’re asking Obama to un-ring a bell that he, himself, chose to ring. How do you clean up dissing your Pastor unless he goes on TV with Pastor Wright present and say “I was wrong to separate you from my campaign.”?

    Well, that would be a start, anyway.

    He’s made numerous errors and he’s more than a year out from the actual election (like skipping the SOBU to announce his run on the same day definitely sent the wrong signal – the one that he was going to deliberately distance himself from African-Americans, if it will earn him the WH). At this pace, he’ll be limping into the primaries, and will be lucky to survive this process at all, with his family intact. I would be more than happy to serve up my best thoughts and wishes for Obama, but in order for him to do what you define at “the right thing”, that will begin with him listening to his own inner convictions and values; and not respond or operate according to whatever his campaign manager is suggesting. His campaign manager is sounding and behaving more like a white person who has no knowledge or, nor any desire to acquire that knowledge, about what’s going to work best for his campaign. Please tell me what black campaign manager would advise Obama to diss his own Pastor? I don’t think even the lack-of-credibility political commentator Donna Brazile would do that.

    And did it ever occur to you that those who are engaging in “name-calling” are doing so because we see a brotha with potential to go to the Highest office in the Land, and he’s pissing away his potential while trying to get to his goal?

    Just some food for thought….

  20. political junkie,

    Girl, you just keep coming with it. One of these days I’m gonna make a special trip just to meet you. Your grasp of issues and brillance are inspirational. Thank you from the bottom of my extremely skeptical heart for being on this space.

  21. If someone attempts to lead black people down the same tired Democratic road without dealing with the illegal government, illegal war, illegal occupation of this Red land, the government’s global imperial adventurism, why are we even having a conversation?

    People of color who take a ‘business as usual’ approach to what’s going on and are waiting to see which candidate will deliver rhetorical bacon to us, while leaving untouched the prison industrial complex, the Aids epidemic, the rampant joblessness of our people, etc, etc, etc – must be high.

    Obama hasn’t actually said anything. To say that this particular war is wrong – what about Afghanistan, Gulf War I, Somalia, Panama? The United States is THE terror state, but we like to ignore that and talk about what Chris Matthews or one of those other chumps is/is not saying. Puhleaze!?

  22. Denise

    thank you Pol Junkie for the sentiments in #27.

    The SOBU diss (he didn’t have to attend but the way that went down sent a clear message that “I ain’t wit dem n____rs”), the reported dissing of his pastor, the Ebony magazine cover (a cheap and ghetto – all visual, no substance – campaigning plug). None of it sits right.

    It’s like I said in an earlier post: “when someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time”:-/

  23. This blog gives me hope that not everybody’s drinking the koolaid.

    I wish Obama was the real thing, but he’s not. And no amount of rationalizing his relationship with the DLC, his poor treatment of his own pastor (and others, more than likely), talking down to his audiences, or glossing over the holes in his story, is going to make it so. Even if it’s just the result of so much bad advice from handlers–his lack of judgment in these things is telling.

    I cringe when I hear him slip into his imitation of a Southern black preacher. The same way I cringed when he stiffened up with palpable discomfort when addressing predominantly black audiences here on the south side when he was running against Bobby Rush.

    If your first response to Obama is to rationalize something that doesn’t sit well, please, don’t bother. Just get new batteries for your Bullshit detectors.

  24. Denise

    The wagons are definitely circling in the black blogosphere around Obama. I have no problem with that except that it’s being done for the wrong reasons.

    Why do I get the sneeky suspicion this effort has less to do with shielding Obama , the viable candidate, (who also happens to be a black man) than it does protecting the ACCESS that an Obama political ascension means for some black elites. You know, those clawing… um positioning themselves for a piece of the political action.

    I know I am not the only one to notice the consistency of the blog rebuttals – “slaves”, “tearning down a bro”, field hands”, etc.). This reeks of a strategy pulled straight from a set of talking points.

    Why must we all agree? We are either a mosaic of interests or a block? Which is it?

    Where’s the objective black media coverage of black candidates – ALL OF THEM – whose role is supposed to be to develop an informed black electorate?

    If we are indeed a bunch of glorified “slaves” , we have our black media to blame for not giving us a complete picture of those who want or have placed themselves in high profile positions of authority.

    I’m disgusted.

  25. Denise

    yes, Yogo… and to your credit, you pointed it out initially.

    “Consider the source” mode is in full-effect.🙂

  26. rikyrah

    The wagons are definitely circling in the black blogosphere around Obama. I have no problem with that except that it’s being done for the wrong reasons.

    You think it’s circling around Obama? Where do you see that? All I see in the Black Blogosphere are the ones pulling out the arrows against Obama. I’ve had a hard time in the Black Blogosphere trying to defend Obama.

    I’m not seeing this Black Blogosphere love for Obama.

  27. rikyrah

    I go to blackprof regularly. Ok, maybe there. But, that’s about it. The only other places where Obama isn’t slammed is the Black Conservative blogs, but they attack him for his leftist positions. I’m not seeing the Obama love in the Black blogosphere.

  28. I have to go with Denise on this one – the Black elite believes that if they protect Obama, then an Obama presidency is going to reward them with a lot of the Links crowd getting key positions in the President’s cabinet. And whites aren’t going to allow that.

    Look what happened when Clinton appointed all those “coloreds” to key Cabinet positions (Rodney Slater at Transportation; Hazel O’Leary at Energy; Joycelyn Elders as Surgeon General; Henry Cisneros at HUD, Deval Patrick as Asst. Attorney General for Civil Rights, etc.) When the ReThugs took over Congress in 1994, there was talk from the likes of Arlen Spector, Rick Santorum, Orrin Hatch and Tom DeLay, to eliminate most of those agencies those of color headed up.

    I provide this history to show that if the Black elite is calling themselves protecting Obama in the hopes that if he gets the White House, he will amply reward them for getting him there. However, Obama’s recent history in this campaign so far (dissing his pastor, no-show at SOBU, Buckdancing for Israel and who’s giving him money ) does not augur well for those prospects of Black elites getting elevated anywhere.

    Just more of my $0.02.

  29. well, i’m definitely not trying to say obama isn’t a craven operator. that wasn’t my point. i think they are all craven operators, all these politicians. that’s been my stance for a long time. i just wondered practically, how much flex the man oughtt be given considering the job he’s trying to take on. but maybe i want to see someone other than the Same Ole White Male up in that house, maybe too bad.

    you may be right with not allowing the smallest concession. after all, gonzales and i share ethnicity, but as far as i’m concerned, he shouldn’t be anywhere near power. that man is a true danger. he’s no better than bush. not one bit.

    but to respond to thefreeslave, who says, very eloquently:

    if someone attempts to lead black people down the same tired Democratic road without dealing with the illegal government, illegal war, illegal occupation of this Red land, the government’s global imperial adventurism, why are we even having a conversation?

    i can’t speak for black people, and not even even for all Mexican Americans. but for myself, i applaud these topics. i write on these same things all the time, i spit at that “same tired” old road. and if these standards you list are to be the ones for a candidate, then i fully agree. Obama is not it!

    But i also would say that a White Male would be driven out of town trying to address the genocide of the indigenous and the current illegal occupation of these lands, or the CIA black bag jobs done on the regular, or our constant policy of tearing down or propping up puppet governments. I am fully with you or anyone on making those priorities. But I have to admit that no candidate is going to lead anyone down any road that looks like that in this setup. Those crimes are standard American operating procedure.

    This is why my thoughts generally don’t run down those prescribed and systematized routes. But sometimes I feel some hope. And I have to admit, it made me feel hopeful to see a Black man move toward the presidency of the United States.

    But you are right: I do agree a candidate could speak out on the prison systems and the war, and the justice system’s inequal focus and punishment of The Brown™, and other things, as you point out. And I do agree that not only could a Black or Brown man, but should.

  30. rikyrah

    Nezua,

    thanks for sharing, and once again, I’m definitely feeling your conflict. I understand it completely.

  31. Kelechi

    I must say, this back-and-forth has been quite interesting and indeed enlightening. I just have some questions for a few of you:

    Freeslave: Would you expect the issues you fault Obama for not raising to be raised by another White House contender? Or is Obama required to raise them because he’s black? Do you believe any serious candidate for president could raise these issues and still win? Is it worth it to raise these issues, and become a political martyr? Isn’t winning the point? Would it be wrong to keep mum on certain issues, gain the seat, and then effect change or influence a review of the status quo from within?

    To all: Can anyone suggest a credible black person in the public arena today who would be a good presidential candidate? We do well to take apart any non WASP who steps forward for the job, and i’d trying to find out why. It seems that whites who run for president are judged on the issues, their records, etc. Blacks candidates are ripped to shreds by blacks if they seem to have the support the mainstream, and ripped to shreds by whites if they seem to only champion issues important to blacks. I’m just curious. Do we want a President Sharpton or President Jackson? It makes me a little uneasy that these two men are usually the first to be called on as political leaders or spokesmen of the race. Neither holds any public office, but somehow I can’t seem to turn on my television or open a newspaper without seeing a perm and Steve Harvey 3-piece suit.
    Do I agree Obama has already stumbled out of the gate? Of course. But then again, who hasn’t? Should Obama be held to a higher standard? I understand Nexua’s concern, but I don’t believe we should have affirmative action for political races. On the other hand, I don’t think its realistic to assume that he has a fair shot, whatever “fair” means. We shouldn’t forget that a black politician is still a politician. A white candidate will say anything for your vote. I don’t think Obama ought to be villified for playing the game according to its rules.
    Last question: Forget your personal opinions regarding his political style or your perception of what his beliefs are. How many of you believe he could (not would) be a good president, given the background and performances of the last five presidents?

    Like someone said earlier… I’m going with the lesser evil… I’m on Barack’s team until Gore makes his announcement…

  32. “Freeslave: Would you expect the issues you fault Obama for not raising to be raised by another White House contender? Or is Obama required to raise them because he’s black? Do you believe any serious candidate for president could raise these issues and still win? Is it worth it to raise these issues, and become a political martyr? Isn’t winning the point? Would it be wrong to keep mum on certain issues, gain the seat, and then effect change or influence a review of the status quo from within?”

    I would not. I don’t expect any mainstream candidate to address these isues – if they did, they’d be Dennis Kucinich. No truly honest AND intelligent person would run for office expecting to reform this government from the inside. This is a task for the people.

    If “winning” is the point, who loses? Black people, other people of color, poor, exploited folk – globally – lose EVERY time. Do you consider that a win? I’m a black man and I don’t want to have privielege based on exploiting Chinese prison labor, Mexican, Vietnamese, Thai, Indian, African virtual slaves.

    Is it a win to have a democratic edifice that masks an authoritarian, coercive, Nazi plantation? Just cuz you’ve got cable and a car doesn’t make you free and none of these candidates are trying to destroy the globalized plantation. You lose.

  33. Kelechi

    I’m just a little confused… First off, I agree with many of your points… I do believe that changing the world is a job for more than one person. But I’m just trying to work with what you give me here. You criticize Obama for not raising eyebrows and drawing attention to certain issues. The you say that there’s no way someone could make change from the White House and that it’s for the people to do. A president can’t change the “global plantation.” So then, why does it matter who is president? Why can’t it be Obama instead of Giuliani, or Edwards? You know, some people’s reality is based on perception, regardless of what the true reality is. Some people, who claim to be victims, do so based on their perception. Would you agree that a black man as president would change some perceptions of what America is, and the potential of all her citizens? (Before you attack, remember, I said ‘perception’.) I should say that my support for Obama started as an alternative to the other candidates. As I have read a bit more and paid a bit more attention to left and right-wing media I have come to appreciate a bit more about him. There is something about the fact that he has virtually no record to dissect and his decision to pass up a lucrative corporate career (having been educated in New York and Boston) to work as a civil rights lawyer in Chicago’s South side, that I can appreciate. (I’m not saying he went hungry. He’s obviously done quite well for himself.) Simply put, I like the fact that he’s not a traditional politician. A politician, nonetheless, yes I know. But like it or not, this world is about perception, and though I’d like to think I’m not as gullible as the next voter, I can’t help but like what I see. I must admit as an African (Nigerian) that having a president with an African name would be nice – not for any particular reason, and yes, I realize there are more important things in the world, but I’m being honest….remember, perception…. Again, I’m trying to find the link between the President and changing the world, if it is a job for the people. Unless, the people having PERCEIVED that some unimaginable things are now possible, say for instance, a black man in the White House, are now a wee bit more driven to make even more efforts to push forward with this new momentum and effect even more change. Just a thought… Please realize that there are far fewer victims in the world than you would like to believe. Maybe at the height of colonialism, yes, one could easily argue, but not so much today. People have way too much access to information these days to be victims. Yes even deep in my village in southeastern Nigeria, people know the difference between a democrat and a republican, that Tony Blair has fallen out of favor with the Labour Party, and that the drop in productivity associated with Chinese New Year probably had something to do with this month’s stock market crash. Yes, I agree, that there are victims in the world, but often than not, they are victims to their own immediate governments than to Big Bad Bush and his political machine. The Americans just know who to take advantage of it. This is the true birthplace of capitalism.
    When I spoke of winning, I was referring to the goal of the candidate. That is the primary goal. Any candidate who says otherwise is one who did not plan to make it to the primaries. I see these as people who have a personal issue upon which they want more light shed. The environment, education, health care, for instance. This is nothing more than an expensive investment, only sometimes attracting a return. I must reiterate that I do indeed appreciate your views and your style of writing. But just as the nation is waiting for what the Democrats have planned after 6 years of complaining and blaming Bush and the conservatives, so am I wondering: You don’t like Obama as a candidate. He dissed his pastor. He snubbed the SOBU. Who then, would be your choice? What is the better alternative? I must say, that I watched both sessions of the SOBU, as well as the cutaway to Obama’s announcement. Obama made a grave mistake by listening to whoever propped him up in front of the old Illinois state house and convinced him to praise Abraham Lincoln. Yes. I was annoyed that as a black man, he felt he had nothing to contribute to a discussion about the state of 12% of the country he plans to run. But I honestly believed at the end of the summit, that Barack missed not much more than free publicity and collateral support. To use an expression I learned from the event, the majority of the people the producer of the summit chose to invite were “leading blacks,” as opposed to “black leaders.” After a bit more thought, I was again disappointed, this time at the loss of an opportunity to hear a different voice at the SOBU. For some reason, it is believed that there is such a thing as the “black vote” and the “black voice.” Just this blog alone dispels that. But no one ever sees that. Much of the discussion at the SOBU was centered around black images on TV and black on black violence. Last time I checked, there’s no more black face, so whatever black image I see on TV has a black person behind it. Black on black violence is self explanatory. Seeing a black Harvard professor on stage doesn’t impress me, and being one doesn’t make one a black leader. Of course you know by now how I feel about Sharpton and Jackson, to whom an inordinate amount of deference was paid, and to whom much of the airtime was given. An opportunity to see and hear that blacks come in different shades and have different experiences and speak in different languages was missed. Keith Ellison was given little chance to speak and was drowned out by voices that had nothing new to say. Had Obama been there, at least his recent popularity would have given him the floor to be heard. But consider the array of political crimes many of his counterparts get caught committing, only to be forgiven, re-elected, defended and even praised, I say Obama can hardly be dismissed. What’s your perception?…. Oh yea, I don’t have a car or cable…guess I’m not that free…

  34. Kelechi

    Thanks freeslave… So I guess in the end, we have a simple disagreement: you believe a President Obama would appease and quell the people, while I believe a President Obama would encourage and embolden the people. Turning on the nite-lite versus lighting a fire. I can respect that… Sorry for the speech earlier…

  35. Don Sechelski

    I am ashamed of you, skeptical brotha. You have only presented one side of the story while ignoring the public letter sent out by Obama’s pastor. He stated quite clearly and emphatically that this story was wrong, taken out of context, and misrepresented the facts. Yet, you present it as the truth without any comment or disclaimer as to the truth. Shame, shame, shame!

  36. Kelechi

    I usually dont take sides, until I have all the facts (or think I do). I would, though, like to give skeptikalbrotha the chance to speak and ask if you still believe so strongly in the anti-Obama idea. Do you recant your statements about him at the top of this post? What do you think about the writer of the NYTimes story? Please share…

  37. Jo Ann Mount

    Obviously The New York Times is desparate for readers to print such trash articles. Are they owned by Fox News? Rev. Wright’s letter says it all.

  38. Wow, the creator of this blog is no better than the right-wing sell-out blacks who demean and misrepresent their race for political profit. You have so many negative, wholly unsubstantiated, and purely self-interested things to say about Obama while fully ignoring the importance of truly being an independent thinker in this current political race.

    I am entirely behind Obama, not only because of his political record, be because of what he represents. You post misrepresentations about him and his record, without justification, while you fail to address anything similar coming from the camps of the other potential presidential candidates.

    When Obama has shared his views, he has never flip-flopped on the issues (Iraq war).

    When he feels passionate about an issue, he backs it up. (creating a website so that the citizens of America can research where their Congressmen are spending their hard earned tax dollars).

    He has never been afraid to cross the isle to get things done. (On numerous occasions he has worked with Republicans to propose legislation).

    Instead of bashing him, simply because he is Black and hiding behind your own skin color to justify this, support him or get out of the way!

  39. Annie Fisher

    Why would anyone believe each and every word reported in the Press? Many of you respond as though what was written was the “truth”…but, who cares? What does his position with his minister have to do with running the country? Are the previous 42 our example of what a President should be? PLEAZZZZEEE people! Most recently we’ve had one who is semi-literate, another who is a known pervert and comitted adultry, another who lied to his country and left office disgraced, an actor, acting like President…and on and on…And, until you have privy to the conversation, why bother to comment. Let’s discuss politics, issues.

  40. Tazz

    Appears most of you haven’t seen Jeremiah Wright’s response to the New York Times article. It also appears many of you have your own hidden resentment embedded against a man long before the truth of what was communicated ever reaches the world. If you hate so deeply, maybe some of you resenters need to attend Trinity to worship one Sunday and realize that not only are you wrong about Obama, you probably are wrong about a good many other things in this world which are passed off by conservatives as “The American Way”. I’ll take my chances with Obama as a world leader, rather than suffer physically, finacially or socially with another leader who has nothing but greed and power as his primary focus.

  41. Lilliebeth Davis

    Willie Lynch theory is still alive and well. When will we who are all descendants of the Oppressors or the Oppressed live that we have more at stake on this Planet and in the United States besides this crap which goes on on radio, television and print.

  42. For the whole analysis of Obama’s racial classification, download the three, free published articles on Obama’s racial explanations at http://www.amosjones.info. The articles delineate what we all know but few people are willing to point out — and are written by an author in a position to know.

  43. Brotha B

    Hear hear Tazz, ” To not know your Histoy, is to not create your future” What are we trippin on. We have been held captive, disinfranchaised, and the ultimate, brain washed by so many not like us ,to living this now lie that we have some sort of equal footing. Now with the age of inforamtion , covertly are being pitted up aginst each other when the one of the few times for hope in our history is once again upon us, to be little it and seeing it as something it is not. For all that we have and that in which we don’t , the only thing our ancestors had at time s is HOPE and how soon we seem to forget that thats truly the one thing we still have, thnking we have arrivedl, right. We need to get in line with a brotha and commit to something cause we have fallen for the hoke doke way to long. We’er still Number one in most of the catagories in society that no one wants to be associated with. Lets be number one in trying to influence the change we as a people have so endured. If there is any one set up to do it, it’s those who still have some level of compassion left after enduring so much for so long. Four years of Obama can’t be near as bad as over two hundred of them. In the owrds of Spike Lee ‘ WAKE UP! ‘

  44. Patience Price

    Do we believe EVERYTHING we read without considering the motives of those who control the media? Why must the first thought or action be to malign our own??? Obama need not worry about the conservatives trying to bury him. Black people will do it for them.
    Will we ever rise above the ‘crabs in a barrel’ mentality? This is why other groups will always move ahead and rise above the pettiness we seem to wallow in.
    Shame on us! By the way…Obama’s pastor wrote a long responseto the NY Times damning the columnist who wrote this misguided article. Rev. Wright had nothing be glowing things to say about Obama. He also intelligently explained the decision to keep negative press away from the pastor. THAT was the motivation…nothing about being DISSED!
    ‘My people, my people..!’ SAD!

  45. Cynthia Yates

    Doesn’t anybody wonder about the motives of SKEPTICAL BROTHA and whose “brother” he really is? Ain’t nobody, I’d call brotha. More like a “bother” than a brother!

  46. http://community.livejournal.com/obama_rama/25732.html

    His own pastor denounces this view of the interview and you are irresponsible in promoting something that the original source finds to be slanderous and totally misconstrued.

    And what, pray tell, in the hot HOly Hell does “standing” by your pastor have to do with having the intellectual, spiritual and mental capacity to lead a country that believes in the seperation between church and state?

    I’m fine with disagreeing on policy but this type of selective hearing, group think, and emotional rhetoric is tired and counterproductive.

  47. Anita Marshall

    I find it remarkable that there were so many responses to a blog that fails to respect the position and titles of African American clergy. Your use of Mr. rather than Rev. or Pastor seems somewhat disrespectful. This is a clear indication of both your lack of regard for African Americans and the clergy that provide the spiritual direction, personal empowerment, and support for this rich culture.
    Anita Marshall

  48. Anita Marshall

    The last sentence was omitted from my comments.

    Perhaps this is why you would present a biased, slanted account of what happened in an effort to discount Mr. Obama as a viable candidate for the United States presidency by keeping some “mess” going.
    Anita Marshall

  49. Every time we try to do good evil is alway there. Paul said that.
    When it comes to negation we all have a thorn in our side, but we all need to go on doing good and Love one another that is the call of the day and that is what will make the difference, not whether one is black or white. It is who will do the best job for America. Don’t let the media tell you who to vote for or tell you who is best for America that is how we got in the mess we are in today with Bush. We let them tell us who we could vote for. I say Go for what you know Obama! God’s will is at work here. Keep the faith everyone.

  50. Kathy

    Jodi,

    You have lied, and you know it. This is definitely not true. I have met and followed Rev. Wright for years, and I believe him, when he says, that the topic of him attending the Feb. 10 event was a mutual decision between him and Obama to have the focus totally on him.

    What a disgrace you are.

  51. Educator of America

    Contrary to the repsponses already given, none have taken into account that this is one woman’s article and attack on a man that evidentally she finds unfit to become the leader of this country. Lets take pause and look at the bigger picture: This woman claims Mr. Obama distanced himself from his pastor, yet the pastor himself has emphatically called this woman a liar an abuser of the truth, her position on Obama related issues are quite negative, and she is just one person, who really is not objective. People are so quick to judge before hearing all the facts. Mr. Obama deserves a bit more respect than he has been given.

  52. My name is Melissa

    March 11, 2007
    Jodi Kantor
    The New York Times
    9 West 43rd Street
    New York ,
    New York 10036-3959

    Dear Jodi:

    Thank you for engaging in one of the biggest misrepresentations of the
    truth I have ever seen in sixty-five years
    . You sat and shared with me for two hours. You told me you were
    doing a “Spiritual Biography” of Senator Barack Obama. For two hours, I
    shared with you how I thought he was the most principled individual in
    public service that I have ever met.

    For two hours, I talked with you about how idealistic he was. For two
    hours I shared with you what a genuine human being he was. I told you
    how incredible he was as a man who was an African American in public
    service, and as a man who refused to announce his candidacy for
    President until Carol Moseley Braun indicated one way or the other
    whether or not she was going to run. I told you what a dreamer he was. I
    told you how idealistic he was. We talked about how refreshing it would
    be for someone who knew about Islam to be in the Oval Office. Your own
    question to me was, Didn’t I think it would be incredible to have
    somebody in the Oval Office who not only knew about Muslims, but had
    living and breathing Muslims in his own family?

    I told you how important it would be to have a man who not only knew the
    difference between Shiites and Sunnis prior to 9/11/01 in the Oval
    Office, but also how important it would be to have a man who knew what
    Sufism was; a man who understood that there were different branches of
    Judaism; a man who knew the difference between Hasidic Jews, Orthodox
    Jews, Conservative Jews and Reformed Jews; and a man who was a devout
    Christian, but who did not prejudge others because they believed
    something other than what he believed.

    I talked about how rare it was to meet a man whose Christianity was not
    just “in word only.”

    I talked about Barack being a person who lived his faith and did not
    argue his faith. I talked about Barack as a person who did not draw
    doctrinal lines in the sand nor consign other people to hell if they did
    not believe what he believed.

    Out of a two-hour conversation with you about Barack’s spiritual journey
    and my protesting to you that I had not shaped him nor formed him, that
    I had not mentored him or made him the man he was, even though I would
    love to take that credit, you did not print any of that. When I told
    you, using one of your own Jewish stories from the Hebrew Bible as to
    how God asked Moses, “What is that in your hand?,” that Barack was like
    that when I met him. Barack had it “in his hand.” Barack had in his
    grasp a uniqueness in terms of his spiritual development that one is
    hard put to find in the 21st century, and you did not print that.

    As I was just starting to say a moment ago, Jodi, out of two hours of
    conversation I spent approximately five to seven minutes on…

    … Barack’s taking advice from one of his trusted campaign people and
    deeming it unwise to make me the media spotlight on the day of his
    announcing his candidacy for the Presidency and what do you print?

    You and your editor proceeded to present to the general public a
    snippet, a printed “sound byte” and a titillating and tantalizing
    article about his disinviting me to the Invocation on the day of his
    announcing his candidacy.

    I have never been exposed to that kind of duplicitous behavior before,
    and I want to write you publicly to let you know that I do not approve
    of it and will not be party to any further smearing of the name, the
    reputation, the integrity or the character of perhaps this nation’s
    first (and maybe even only) honest candidate offering himself for public
    service as the person to occupy the Oval Office.

    Your editor is a sensationalist. For you to even mention that makes me
    doubt your credibility, and I am looking forward to see how you are
    going to butcher what else I had to say concerning Senator Obama’s
    “Spiritual Biography.”

    Our Conference Minister, the Reverend Jane Fisler Hoffman, a white woman
    who belongs to a Black church that Hannity of “Hannity and Colmes” is
    trying to trash, set the record straight for you in terms of who I am
    and in terms of who we are as the church to which Barack has belonged
    for over twenty years.

    The president of our denomination, the Reverend John Thomas, has offered
    to try to help you clarify in your confused head what Trinity Church is
    even though you spent the entire weekend with us setting me up to
    interview me for what turned out to be a smear of the Senator; and yet
    The New York Times continues to roll on making the truth what it wants
    to be the truth.

    I do not remember reading in your article that Barack had apologized for
    listening to that bad information and bad advice. Did I miss it? Or did
    your editor cut it out? Either way, you do not have to worry about
    hearing anything else from me for you to edit or “spin” because you are
    more interested in journalism than in truth.

    Forgive me for having a momentary lapse. I forgot that The New York
    Times was leading the bandwagon in trumpeting why it is we should have
    gone into an illegal war. The New York Times became George Bush and the
    Republican Party’s national “blog.” The New York Times played a role in
    the outing of Valerie Plame. I do not know why I thought The New York
    Times had actually repented and was going to exhibit a different kind of
    behavior. Maybe it was my faith in the Jewish Holy Day of Roshashana.
    Maybe it was my being caught up in the euphoria of the Season of Lent;
    but whatever it is or was, I was sadly mistaken. There is no repentance
    on the part of The New York Times. There is no integrity when it comes
    to The Times. You should do well with that paper, Jodi. You looked me
    straight in my face and told me a lie!

    Sincerely and respectfully yours,
    Reverend Jeremiah A. Wright, Jr. ,
    Senior Pastor
    Trinity United Church of Christ
    ou “idiots” that don’t seek the truth and live by the gospel of the media “THIS IS FOR YOU!!!!!!!!”

  53. E.R.-Ohio

    Kudos to Kelechi!! Hands down you have posted questions that still have yet to be expoounded upon by skepitcalbrotha..don’t apologize for calling him out!

    Hand claps to the folks that read the statement/email submitted to Jodi (NYT) by Obama’s pastor. Personally, I don’t see him not being there as a “diss”! What other candidates – white-male or female- have EVER had their pastors or “spiritual leaders” stand up by them or give them an introduction-either at a press conference or campaign-ing event?!!

    You bloggers-skeptical brotha, thefreeslave, political junkie- are GradeA, bonified HATORS!! If you’re going to blog about the politcs of the upcoming presidency and it’s candidates-please do so objectively and not with such obvious disregard for TRUTH.
    Kelechi has made THE most sense out of all or you!

  54. Cliff

    “Bill Burton, a spokesman for the Obama campaign, said the campaign disinvited Mr. Wright because it did not want the church to face negative attention. Mr. Wright did however, attend the announcement and prayed with Mr. Obama beforehand.”

    The hardliners of the black revolutionary class are applying pressure on “Obama”, and the hardliners of the neo-conservative class are not hesitant with an attack from the right. Therefore “Obama” is being squeezed in the middle with a heavy backing from the white liberals and the democratic underclass. His recent strategies for the presidency may be perceived as questionable by the conscious black community, but secretive alliances are also considered acceptable:)

  55. Michelle

    All, consider the following letter to the NY Times from Rev. Wright to the author of this article:

    March 11, 2007
    Jodi Kantor
    The New York Times
    9 West 43rd Street
    New York ,
    New York 10036-3959

    Dear Jodi:

    Thank you for engaging in one of the biggest misrepresentations of the truth I have ever seen in sixty-five years. You sat and shared with me for two hours. You told me you were doing a “Spiritual Biography” of Senator Barack Obama. For two hours, I shared with you how I thought he was the most principled individual in public service that I have ever met.

    For two hours, I talked with you about how idealistic he was. For two hours I shared with you what a genuine human being he was. I told you how incredible he was as a man who was an African American in public service, and as a man who refused to announce his candidacy for President until Carol Moseley Braun indicated one way or the other whether or not she was going to run. I told you what a dreamer he was. I told you how idealistic he was. We talked about how refreshing it would be for someone who knew about Islam to be in the Oval Office. Your own question to me was, Didn’t I think it would be incredible to have somebody in the Oval Office who not only knew about Muslims, but had living and breathing Muslims in his own family?

    I told you how important it would be to have a man who not only knew the difference between Shiites and Sunnis prior to 9/11/01 in the Oval Office, but also how important it would be to have a man who knew what Sufism was; a man who understood that there were different branches of Judaism; a man who knew the difference between Hasidic Jews, Orthodox Jews, Conservative Jews and Reformed Jews; and a man who was a devout Christian, but who did not prejudge others because they believed something other than what he believed.

    I talked about how rare it was to meet a man whose Christianity was not just “in word only.”

    I talked about Barack being a person who lived his faith and did not argue his faith. I talked about Barack as a person who did not draw doctrinal lines in the sand nor consign other people to hell if they did not believe what he believed.

    Out of a two-hour conversation with you about Barack’s spiritual journey and my protesting to you that I had not shaped him nor formed him, that I had not mentored him or made him the man he was, even though I would love to take that credit, you did not print any of that. When I told you, using one of your own Jewish stories from the Hebrew Bible as to how God asked Moses, “What is that in your hand?,” that Barack was like that when I met him. Barack had it “in his hand.” Barack had in his grasp a uniqueness in terms of his spiritual development that one is hard put to find in the 21st century, and you did not print that.

    As I was just starting to say a moment ago, Jodi, out of two hours of conversation I spent approximately five to seven minutes on…

    … Barack’s taking advice from one of his trusted campaign people and deeming it unwise to make me the media spotlight on the day of his announcing his candidacy for the Presidency and what do you print?

    You and your editor proceeded to present to the general public a snippet, a printed “sound byte” and a titillating and tantalizing article about his disinviting me to the Invocation on the day of his announcing his candidacy.

    I have never been exposed to that kind of duplicitous behavior before, and I want to write you publicly to let you know that I do not approve of it and will not be party to any further smearing of the name, the reputation, the integrity or the character of perhaps this nation’s first (and maybe even only) honest candidate offering himself for public service as the person to occupy the Oval Office.

    Your editor is a sensationalist. For you to even mention that makes me doubt your credibility, and I am looking forward to see how you are going to butcher what else I had to say concerning Senator Obama’s “Spiritual Biography.”

    Our Conference Minister, the Reverend Jane Fisler Hoffman, a white woman who belongs to a Black church that Hannity of “Hannity and Colmes” is trying to trash, set the record straight for you in terms of who I am and in terms of who we are as the church to which Barack has belonged for over twenty years.

    The president of our denomination, the Reverend John Thomas, has offered to try to help you clarify in your confused head what Trinity Church is even though you spent the entire weekend with us setting me up to interview me for what turned out to be a smear of the Senator; and yet The New York Times continues to roll on making the truth what it wants to be the truth.

    I do not remember reading in your article that Barack had apologized for listening to that bad information and bad advice. Did I miss it? Or did your editor cut it out? Either way, you do not have to worry about hearing anything else from me for you to edit or “spin” because you are more interested in journalism than in truth.

    Forgive me for having a momentary lapse. I forgot that The New York Times was leading the bandwagon in trumpeting why it is we should have gone into an illegal war. The New York Times became George Bush and the Republican Party’s national “blog.” The New York Times played a role in the outing of Valerie Plame. I do not know why I thought The New York Times had actually repented and was going to exhibit a different kind of behavior. Maybe it was my faith in the Jewish Holy Day of Roshashana. Maybe it was my being caught up in the euphoria of the Season of Lent; but whatever it is or was, I was sadly mistaken. There is no repentance on the part of The New York Times. There is no integrity when it comes to The Times. You should do well with that paper, Jodi. You looked me straight in my face and told me a lie!

    Sincerely and respectfully yours,
    Reverend Jeremiah A. Wright, Jr. ,
    Senior Pastor
    Trinity United Church of Christ

  56. citizenwells

    Pastor Jeremiah Wright is a racist by any rational definition. “Whatsoever a man soweth, so shall he reap.”

  57. phazezero

    All you so-called intellects dissing Senator Obama need to pull the wax out of your ears & “listen” to what the man sid.
    He “stated” on CNN & MSNBC that he categorically denouned some of the things Reverend Wright said.
    He “stated” he does not denounce the man himself.
    Check it out o the youtubes, then come back with an apology.

  58. the doer

    I totally disagree with your premise, iIam a Christian (African American) and I record Rev. Write every Sunday.
    But that doesn’t mean he didn’t take things to far.
    Sen. Obama did not reject Rev. Wright he rejected the comments, and rightly so, you can not live your life hating. As Chistians we stand up for right and against wrong! I believe that what Rev. Wright said was wrong, but I believe alot of what he has preached is correct as long as it is based on the Bible.
    Stop tearing and build-up, it won’t make you any less black, Brotha!!

  59. Sandra

    Are you all Clinton supporters? They could care less about black, brown,yellow, red and poor white folks. Hillary was a Goldwater supporter and as of last year, a ‘friend of corporate america’ according to Time and Newsweek! And who killed Vince Foster? Did you forget about that too?

    Give the brotha’ a break brotha!

    He can’t be any worst than those currently in power. Why do we have to always run each other down? This was a mess that he strightened out with dignity. Move on!

  60. Lee

    all this back and forth about supporting/sticking with your pastor means very little to me, being a secularist, myself…..i’m as dumfounded and repulsed by the white churches behind bush as i am by the one behind obama…..churches, religions, and pastors, we’d be better off without them…..be your own man, your own woman…..think freely and independently…..and yes, i’m a white man, and yes, i too am sick of white men running this country…..and i’m voting for obama, despite his alliance with a pastor that turns me off, because i think he figured out, eventually, that there’s just too much baggage with mr. wright…..mr. wright’s inclination to go over the top is too much for me, and for a lot of people…..it’s not needed……it’s counterproductive….and obama figured that out…..good for him

  61. Meggie

    I notice how Geraldine Ferraro’s frontal racist comments have totally disappeared form the news as we all become engaged in this epic distortion of truth. Wow Hillary! Your folks did a damned good job here. But if this is what you are capable of without even being elected, what can we expect from you if you win?? Another George Bush in Hillary clothing?

  62. clifford martin

    I find it interesting that so much has been said about a candidate the 95% of his contribution is coming from such sponsors as the average everyday folk who may give $200.00. Still I see that main stream america want to endorse him but they are scared to step out and make that change. We have a candidate that really appear to be for all the people.
    I am a democrat, by party but looking for a positive change.Obama for The Oval office!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  63. Beverly

    None of us as Black American have ever had the position of running for President of these United States before. Awesome, that in our lifetime we have been blessed to see that times are achanging. That is the first point. Everyone around Obama is going to be game for the media to misinterpret anything they say or do which will put a bad light on Obama.(even Obama himself, he is human) Be aware that the way to conquer is to divide and separate. (2nd point) Remember that it was church folks who crucified Jesus. It’s amazing to me that not even in Church where Obama should have been able to worship in peace , someone is there to video. Regardless of what Obama does or says or lives, there is going to be someone who is going to call it something other than what it is to Obama.
    Is it possible for us to be supportive instead of tearing down, patient instead of judgemental, positive instead of negative, hopeful instead of antagonistic, we have come along way – do you think this is going to be a walk in the park? If you were in his place, how would you handle his pressure? You will never know until You get there. I’m not just talking about people of color – this whole United States is being tested as to the character of our country. How do you think we are all handeling this major event: A black man running for President or a White woman. Whew! I’m praying for us- if we are not careful, We will rip our country apart.

  64. Dr. Ayaba Bey

    Great comments Sister Beverly! Keep that mind open and thinking.

    I saw the media manipulate us from supporting or even listening to Malcolm X and Mr. Elijah Muhammad. I was one who turned my TV off! I saw the media paint the Black Panthers as some violent mad men. I saw the media paint Stokely Carmichael, Minister Farrakhan, Eartha Kitt, as bad people…the white house even had Eartha Kitt blackballed so that she could not even work in this country because she was vocal about the Vietnam War. Then do not forget all the blacks in theater and the movies who were blacklisted and accused of being communist during the McCarthy era…Paul Robson for one. You see, my people, you must read and study history to find out that we are always the puppets of the Trickster generations. They continue tricking us and we continue falling for it. Open up your eyes and see the string pullers. Nothing has changed…not even us! I am not into politics AT ALL. But I voted for Obama in the primaries and I will vote for him in the main election. I do it for the sake of history, not because he can do more than what the World Banks and the IMF and the Bilderburgers and the Rothchilds and the Rockefellers (The World Population Control Board) will permit. If the whites in the White House do not work for you why in the name of our ancestors would you vote for them when there is another option? Bill Clinton passed the most negatively harmful bills to Black folk and they still love him. We are so use to being mistreated that we accept that as our way of life. You tell batterted women to leave their man but we as a people still stay with our historical abusers…the slave holders, their descendents and their philosophical doctrines, including religion and education. If what they did were working then the prison population would be getting smaller not larger. Our sons would be graduating high school and college by the thousands, millions, instead of the University of the Streets! WAKE UP!

  65. citizenwells

    “And the notion that somehow it’s cute or amusing, or a useful diversion, I think, is something that all of us have to recognize is just not the case. We all have First Amendment rights. And I am a constitutional lawyer and strongly believe in free speech, but as a culture, we really have to do some soul-searching to think about what kind of toxic information are we feeding our kids,”

  66. citizenwells

    Thanks.
    That quote is from Barack Obama on April 11, 2007 regarding the “nappy headed hos” comment by Don Imus. I have more info on
    citizenwells.wordpress.com

  67. The Nupe

    Skeptical Brotha and Your Cronies,

    You’ve got to be kidding me! Barak Obama is the breath of fresh air that we have all been waiting for…Black, White, Latino, Native American, etc. I cannot believe that you have found reasons in your mind not to support his candidacy. Your “Crabs in a Barrel” mentality puts it mildly. Your ignorance of the way the world works comes through in your blogs. Please do us all a favor and remain quiet until the conclusion of this election.

  68. James

    My question is: why is Pastor Wright preaching politics from the pulpit? And why is *my* church held to a different standard? My Pastor frequently warns us that he has to stop a line of thought because he risks straying into politics and daren’t risk it.

    And why, in 2008, fully forty years down the road is anyone– let alone a candidate for President– sitting still listening to recycled Black Panther hate speech from 1968?

    I have two thoughts on this matter.

    One, someone ought to call the IRS on Reverend Wright and look into his cars and his vacations and his houses and most of all his rhetoric as a tax-exempt entity.

    And two, Barack ought to CLEARLY denounce the thinking prevalent in our community– that says that our problems are anyone’s fault but our own. If he wants to be a true voice of change, he has to change US too.

    Own it, or be slaves to the people who do.

  69. August

    “…… CLEARLY denounce the thinking prevalent in our community– that says that our problems are anyone’s fault but our own. ……”

    WORD

  70. Frances Jackson

    This info is false. You should read the letter Rev. Wright sent to the NY Times regarding the lie Here it is:
    Dear Jodi:
    Thank you for engaging in one of the biggest misrepresentations of the truth I have ever seen in sixty-five years. You sat and shared with me for two hours. You told me you were doing a “Spiritual Biography” of Senator Barack Obama. For two hours, I shared with you how I thought he was the most principled individual in public service that I have ever met.
    For two hours, I talked with you about how idealistic he was. For two hours I shared with you what a genuine human being he was. I told you how incredible he was as a man who was an African American in public service, and as a man who refused to announce his candidacy for President until Carol Moseley Braun indicated one way or the other whether or not she was going to run.

    I told you what a dreamer he was. I told you how idealistic he was. We talked about how refreshing it would be for someone who knew about Islam to be in the Oval Office. Your own question to me was, Didn’t I think it would be incredible to have somebody in the Oval Office who not only knew about Muslims, but had living and breathing Muslims in his own family? I told you how important it would be to have a man who not only knew the difference between Shiites and Sunnis prior to 9/11/01 in the Oval Office, but also how important it would be to have a man who knew what Sufism was; a man who understood that there were different branches of Judaism; a man who knew the difference between Hasidic Jews, Orthodox Jews, Conservative Jews and Reformed Jews; and a man who was a devout Christian, but who did not prejudge others because they believed something other than what he believed.

    I talked about how rare it was to meet a man whose Christianity was not just “in word only.” I talked about Barack being a person who lived his faith and did not argue his faith. I talked about Barack as a person who did not draw doctrinal lines in the sand nor consign other people to hell if they did not believe what he believed.

    Out of a two-hour conversation with you about Barack’s spiritual journey and my protesting to you that I had not shaped him nor formed him, that I had not mentored him or made him the man he was, even though I would love to take that credit, you did not print any of that. When I told you, using one of your own Jewish stories from the Hebrew Bible as to how God asked Moses, “What is that in your hand?,” that Barack was like that when I met him. Barack had it “in his hand.” Barack had in his grasp a uniqueness in terms of his spiritual development that one is hard put to find in the 21st century, and you did not print that.
    As I was just starting to say a moment ago, Jodi, out of two hours of conversation I spent approximately five to seven minutes on Barack’s taking advice from one of his trusted campaign people and deeming it unwise to make me the media spotlight on the day of his announcing his candidacy for the Presidency and what do you print? You and your editor proceeded to present to the general public a snippet, a printed “sound byte” and a titillating and tantalizing article about his disinviting me to the Invocation on the day of his announcing his candidacy.

    I have never been exposed to that kind of duplicitous behavior before, and I want to write you publicly to let you know that I do not approve of it and will not be party to any further smearing of the name, the reputation, the integrity or the character of perhaps this nation’s first (and maybe even only) honest candidate offering himself for public service as the person to occupy the Oval Office.

    Your editor is a sensationalist. For you to even mention that makes me doubt your credibility, and I am looking forward to see how you are going to butcher what else I had to say concerning Senator Obama’s “Spiritual Biography.” Our Conference Minister, the Reverend Jane Fisler Hoffman, a white woman who belongs to a Black church that Hannity of “Hannity and Colmes” is trying to trash, set the record straight for you in terms of who I am and in terms of who we are as the church to which Barack has belonged for over twenty years.

    The president of our denomination, the Reverend John Thomas, has offered to try to help you clarify in your confused head what Trinity Church is even though you spent the entire weekend with us setting me up to interview me for what turned out to be a smear of the Senator; and yet The New York Times continues to roll on making the truth what it wants to be the truth. I do not remember reading in your article that Barack had apologized for listening to that bad information and bad advice. Did I miss it? Or did your editor cut it out? Either way, you do not have to worry about hearing anything else from me for you to edit or “spin” because you are more interested in journalism than in truth.

    Forgive me for having a momentary lapse. I forgot that The New York Times was leading the bandwagon in trumpeting why it is we should have gone into an illegal war. The New York Times became George Bush and the Republican Party’s national “blog.” The New York Times played a role in the outing of Valerie Plame. I do not know why I thought The New York Times had actually repented and was going to exhibit a different kind of behavior.
    Maybe it was my faith in the Jewish Holy Day of Roshashana. Maybe it was my being caught up in the euphoria of the Season of Lent; but whatever it is or was, I was sadly mistaken. There is no repentance on the part of The New York Times. There is no integrity when it comes to The Times. You should do well with that paper, Jodi. You looked me straight in my face and told me a lie!
    Sincerely and respectfully yours,

    Reverend Jeremiah A. Wright, Jr. ,
    Senior Pastor
    Trinity United Church of Christ

  71. Frances Jackson

    First, I’m quite pissed at everyone throwing around the word “denouce”. Why is it so important for Black folks to “denounce” someone when they say something that the majority does not agree with. Did anyone “denounce” Michael Richards, Don Imus, Mel Gibson or the numerous folks who say negative and/or racist comments against the minorities (blacks, women, jewish people)? Why does Barack have to denounce his former pastor? Those are the views of his pastor, not Barack Obama’s. Additionally, Barack Obama should only have to “denounce” his FORMER pastor when ALL AMERICANS denounce that one friend, relative or colleague who has made a similar racist or anti-patriotic statement. We all know people who speak “comfortably” when they are around “their own kind”. To be a fly on the wall at a family dinner or an all white meeting of sorts with the knowledge that no “intruders” or “outsiders” are present. Come on people. Are you surprised that people say things that are “politically incorrect” when they think no one is watching?

  72. Val

    Letter to NY Times Reporter from Rev. Dr. J.Wright

    (READ IT!) Send it to others

    March 11, 2007
    Jodi Kantor
    The New York Times
    9 West 43rd Street
    New York ,
    New York 10036-3959

    Dear Jodi:
    Thank you for engaging in one of the biggest
    misrepresentations of the truth I have ever seen in sixty-five years
    . You sat and shared with me for two hours. You told me you were
    doing a “Spiritual Biography” of Senator Barack Obama. For two hours, I
    shared with you how I thought he was the most principled individual in
    public service that I have ever met.
    For two hours, I talked with you about how idealistic he
    was. For two hours I shared with you what a genuine human being he was.
    I told you how incredible he was as a man who was an African American in
    public service, and as a man who refused to announce his candidacy for
    President until Carol Moseley Braun indicated one way or the other
    whether or not she was going to run.
    I told you what a dreamer he was. I told you how
    idealistic he was. We talked about how refreshing it would be for
    someone who knew about Islam to be in the Oval Office. Your own que stion
    to me was, Didn’t I think it would be incredible to have somebody in the
    Oval Office who not only knew about Muslims, but had living and
    breathing Muslims in his own family? I told you how important it would
    be to have a man who not only knew the difference between Shiites and
    Sunnis prior to 9/11/01 in the Oval Office, but also how important it
    would be to have a man who knew what Sufism was; a man who understood
    that there were different branches of Judaism; a man who knew the
    difference between Hasidic Jews, Orthodox Jews, Conservative Jews and
    Reformed Jews; and a man who was a devout Christian, but who did not
    prejudge others because they believed something other than what he
    believed.
    I talked about how rare it was to meet a man whose
    Christianity was not just “in word only.” I talked about Barack being a
    person who lived his faith and did not argue his faith. I talked about
    Barack as a person who did not draw doctrinal lines in the sand nor
    consign other people to hell if they did not believe what he believed.
    Out of a two-hour conversation with you about Barack’s
    spiritual journey and my protesting to you that I had not shaped him nor
    formed him, that I had not mentored him or made him the man he was, even
    though I would love to take that credit, you did not print any of that.
    When I told you, using one of your own Jewish stories from the Hebrew
    Bible as to how God asked Moses, “What is that in your hand?,” that
    Barack was like that when I met him. Barack had it “in his hand.” Barack
    had in his grasp a uniqueness in terms of his spiritual development that
    one is hard put to find in the 21st century, and you did not print that.

    As I was just starting to say a moment ago, Jodi, out of
    two hours of conversation I spent approximately five to seven minutes on
    Barack’s taking advice from one of his trusted campaign people and
    deeming it unwise to make me the media spotlight on the day of his
    announcing his candidacy for the Presidency and what do you print? You
    and your editor proceeded to present to the general public a snippet, a
    printed “sound byte” and a titillating and tantalizing article about his
    disinviting me to the Invocation on the day of his announcing his
    candidacy.
    I have never been exposed to that kind of duplicitous
    behavior before, and I want to write you publicly to let you know that I
    do not approve of it and will not be party to any further smearing of
    the name, the reputation, the integrity or the character of perhaps this
    nation’s first (and maybe even only) honest candidate offering himself
    for public service as the person to occupy the Oval Office.
    &nbs p; Your editor is a sensationalist. For you to even mention
    that makes me doubt your credibility, and I am looking forward to see
    how you are going to butcher what else I had to say concerning Senator
    Obama’s “Spiritual Biography.” Our Conference Minister, the Reverend
    Jane Fisler Hoffman, a white woman who belongs to a Black church that
    Hannity of “Hannity and Colmes” is trying to trash, set the record
    straight for you in terms of who I am and in terms of who we are as the
    church to which Barack has belonged for over twenty years.
    The president of our denomination, the Reverend John
    Thomas, has offered to try to help you clarify in your confused head
    what Trinity Church is even though you spent the entire weekend with us
    setting me up to interview me for what turned out to be a smear of the
    Senator; and yet The New York Times continues to roll on making the
    truth what it wants to be the truth. I do not remember reading in your
    article that Barack had apologized for listening to that bad information
    and bad advice. Did I miss it? Or did your editor cut it out? Either
    way, you do not have to worry about hearing anything else from me for
    you to edit or “spin” because you are more interested in journalism than
    in truth.
    Forgive me for having a momentary lapse. I forgot that
    The New York Times was leading the bandwagon in trumpeting why it is we
    should have gone into an illegal war. The New York Times became George
    Bush and the Republican Party’s national “blog.” The New York Times
    played a role in the outing of Valerie Plame. I do not know why I
    thought The New York Times had actually repented and was going to
    exhibit a different kind of behavior.
    Maybe it was my faith in the Jewish Holy Day of
    Roshashana. Maybe it was my being caught up in the euphoria of the
    Season of Lent; but whatever it is or was, I was sadly mistaken. There
    is no repentance on the part of The New York Times. There is no
    integrity when it comes to The Times. You should do well with that
    paper, Jodi. You looked me straight in my face and told me a lie!
    Sincerely and respectfully yours,
    Reverend Jeremiah A. Wright, Jr. ,

    Senior Pastor
    ; Trinity United Church of Christ

  73. Edward Collier

    To skepticalbrotho
    You have been brainwashed by the talking heads on fox tv Hannity &Colmes Bill OreilyAnd others If you cain’t see through the racist diatribe that is being spouted to Smear Obams by these racists then you need to have your head examined.Obama did not make the remarks that was offensive to some, spouted by pastor wright,He has stated on several ocasions that these views does not reflect his own views,I believe him and I also believe if given the opportunity he will do great things as president,so quit bashing the man and get behind him and support him.What is the alternative??

    Lildude

  74. chase

    Wake-up people..!!! Two things I know, 1- there is a GOD and 2-You all ain’t him. What makes you all think what you have to say will make a difference? Look around.. what you see is POLITICS. The game is the same no matter what the color of a persons skin is. You believe having a,”white man with a black father, or is he a black man with a white mother?, is gonna change the name of the game? Better think again. Tell me who agrees or doesn’t agree with our prisons on another countries soil. All the politicians are in agreement whether they’re brown, yellow, white, red or whatevr they like to call themselves. AND in the end, they all get rich and their constituents remain poor. What a society this United States thing is. BUT you still like it. And your vote won’t change it, no matter who you elect. There are so many loopholes in the constitution, and if you throw in the executive privilages, guess what you get? A politicians holiday, PAID FIOR WITH YOUR VOTE AND EARNINGS. BYE!!!!!

  75. citizenwells

    Skin color has got nothing to do with this.
    It is a human condition.
    Greed, deceit, separation from God.
    Remember, we are all African Americans.
    Our ancestors just left Africa at different times.

  76. We Malaysian, do believe Mr Obama, President of USA has s strength to change the world bad perception on United States of America to become A respective country!

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