HAT TIP:  AP NEW YORK – CBS fired Don Imus from his radio show Thursday, the finale to a stunning fall for one of the nation’s most prominent broadcasters.

Imus initially was given a two-week suspension, to start Monday, for calling the Rutgers women’s basketball team “nappy-headed hos” on the air last week, but outrage continued to grow and advertisers bolted from his programs.

“There has been much discussion of the effect language like this has on our young people, particularly young women of color trying to make their way in this society,” CBS President and Chief Executive Officer Leslie Moonves said in announcing the decision. “That consideration has weighed most heavily on our minds as we made our decision.”

Rutgers women’s basketball team spokeswoman Stacey Brann said the team did not have an immediate comment on Imus’ firing but would be issuing a statement later Thursday evening.

Time Magazine once named the cantankerous broadcaster as one of the 25 Most Influential People in America, and he was a member of the National Broadcaster Hall of Fame.

But Imus found himself at the center of a storm after his comments. Protests ensued, and one by one, sponsors pulled their ads from Imus’ show. On Wednesday, MSNBC dropped the simulcast of Imus’ show.

The Rev. Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson met with Moonves to advocate Imus’ removal, promising a rally outside CBS headquarters Saturday and an effort to persuade more advertisers to abandon Imus.Sumner Redstone, chairman of the CBS Corp. board and its chief stockholder, told Newsweek that he had expected Moonves to “do the right thing,” although it wasn’t clear what he thought that was.

75 thoughts on “CBS AXES IMUS

  1. yogo

    Yes. Now wouldn’t it be great if we could start a dialogue about the coarseness that’s passing for entertainment?

  2. It would, Yogo, but based on some of the comments that have been posted it’s hard to imagine folks can cool down enough to begin a serious discourse on that topic. Let’s hope it will happen at some point. And good to CBS for their follow-through.

  3. Cliff

    This issue has opened up a floodgate of debate. I thank God for “Skeptical Brotha” for giving us a forum to debate issues. I would like to also thank God for allowing “Imus” to make those remarks, because words can change lifestyles and bring forth a high level of intelligence coming particularly from the black people who comment on this site. I got to show some love to SB for launching a site like this. Much Love and respect to all my Brother and Sisters who comment on this site. Those remarks motivated me to come here. Angie and Ebony you sound like some powerful sisters, who present powerful arguments. To Rick and The Political Junkie, you all very intriguing points.

    To StanJ: As I said before I don’t give a damn whether T. Brawley lied or not, your people have unleashed a wave of atrocities against us that are immeasurable to small occurrences such as the “O.J. Verdict”, “T. Brawley case”, etc. Jews have lost 6 million in the holocaust, what about 600 million we lost during the Trans-Atlantic slave trade, the death toll of murder and rape after which? White racists a violent, they don’t just say harsh words, they kill. For the most part black people. As “Angie” said you still capitalize on the theft of the land and our free labor. Therefore history is relevant. Jessie Jackson maybe made some inflammatory statements about Jewish people. Has he tried to physically attack any Jewish or white person ever? I think you think of Al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson as racist, because they stands us for the rights of black people. A racist in this country will maybe I don’t know drag a black man down the street, shoot up a school of Jewish children. Get in your mind what the definition of a “racist” is in this country.

  4. Rick

    OT: I also fired a so-called “friend” over this…

    A white person I knew for a long time said some things that he shouldn’t have and i told him exactly where he could go. From the things he said, between the “duke lacross” thing and the imus thing, he felt the need to let off some steam on the closest black person he knew. He thought I was the one…I wasn’t. We are no longer speaking. That’s perfectly fine with me. I don’t need “friends” like that. Always kept him at a distance anyways. Just wondering if anyone else found out about someone’s “true” colors this past week…You know bigotry exists, but sometimes still feel surprised when it hits you right in the face and not something you read in the paper or hear on the radio, or see on tv, or etc. etc. etc.

  5. Rick

    agree with you Cliff, and thanks for the shout out.
    there are some deep-thinking brothers and sisters up in here!
    thanks SB for hostin us!

  6. NMP

    Now that Imus is completely off the air, can we, Black women, drop the pretense that Imus’ comments have had more impact on our dignity and psyche than the daily inundation of venom spewed against us by the very men we have given life to. We have an entire generation of kids that are learning how to correctly enunciate “bitch, ho and nigga” before they learn to conjugate a verb. 99.9% of our kids don’t know the Black National Anthem, but you better bet they know the playa’s anthem. Quite frankly, I’m more pissed at the blatant hypocrisy of the corporate enablers than I am at Imus’ comments. The idea that Viacom, the parent company of CBS, MTV and most notably BET, would pretend to care about the effect this sort of language has on children of color when it is operating a network that set the standard for usage of such language and imagery on the airwaves. The Godfather of the ‘Nigga, Bitch Ho’ television movement himself, Bob Johnson, even had the temerity to criticize what he called the attitude of acceptance of racism and sexism on the air waves. Bob Johnson! Yeah, colored folks, let’s celebrate this hallow victory today, but tomorrow the vast majority of our children will still be in failing schools, 1 in 3 Black will still be under criminal justice supervision, the hidden Black male unemployment rate will continue to exponentially rise, and Black women will still represent half of new HIV infections. Let me join in, “Hurray, Imus is gone, yippy! Come tomorrow, can we harness this new found energy and spirit into a real movement of saving ourselves?

  7. yogo

    A lof of us have been complaining about the language in rap music for a very long time. This isn’t the first time. Lots of people are concerned about the effects of this garbage on our children, and whether you want to believe it or not, if affects the way they see life. I don’t like it. I despise this pimp culture. When I was in law school the black students had a pimp party. There were only 2 of us who spoke out against it. I’m still wiping trackmarks from that bus off my ass.

    You know what really bothers me about Imus’ comments? Something about what he said hits me in a fundamental way: No matter what you do, what you say, what you accomplish as a black woman, no matter you go to extremes to straighten your hair, at the end of the day you are a nappy headed ho.

    He deserved to be fired. The whole other issue about rap music and BET is a fight for another day.

  8. NMP

    “I thank God for “Skeptical Brotha” for giving us a forum to debate issues.” — Cliff

    Couldn’t agree more!

  9. rikyrah

    The Godfather of the ‘Nigga, Bitch Ho’ television movement himself, Bob Johnson, even had the temerity to criticize what he called the attitude of acceptance of racism and sexism on the air waves. Bob Johnson!

    Because he can feel the debate coming next to the Modern Day Minstrel Show that he promoted so emphatically. He knows that if we have THAT serious debate, that BET will be front and center in that conversation, and he has not a leg to stand on. He knows that the general masses are about to get hip what others have known for awhile – that he was a willing architect in the poisoning of our culture and children.

  10. rikyrah

    “I thank God for “Skeptical Brotha” for giving us a forum to debate issues.” — Cliff

    Amen to that, Cliff.

  11. NMP


    I appreciate your sentiments, but respectfully disagree that we should view rap (and BET) through a different prism. I think Don Imus is merely a symptom of the disease. I think we are being handed an invaluable opportunity, as a people, to have a national discussion and do some searching. If we don’t take advantage of this opportunity now, then when?

    On another note, I’m not quite sure I’m following you about straightening hair. It sort of sounds like the comments from a Black female MSNBC reporter today. She said that she and the Black women she had spoken to were confused why Don Imus called the young women “nappy headed” when clearly they didn’t have, in her words, “afros, but rather straight hair.” Now I’m not suggesting that this is the message that you are trying to convey, but she seemed to be conveying that if these young women were wearing their hair natural that the insult “nappy headed” would somehow have been warranted or less insulting?

    Perhaps she was a little dizzy from having been dragged out of the basement and put on air for the first time just to give the appearance of diversity on MSNBC. But, to me, that’s as inane as Snoop Dogg arguing that Black female collegiate athletes are more deserving of respect than poor, uneducated Black females in the ghetto, perhaps misguided by the pursuit of fast money as promoted in popular culture, but nontheless vulnerable and deserving of our respect, protection and guidance.

  12. NMP


    You are absolutely right! I think they see it coming–fast! There is no way in hell that White folks, conservative and liberal alike, are going to accept disparate standards of decency. They are going to DEMAND that Viacom impose uniform standards of all its media outlets, most notably MTV and BET.

  13. NMP

    Sorry I need to proof read better…

    “I think we are being handed an invaluable opportunity, as a people, to have a national discussion and do some searching. ”

    Insert SOUL before searching. 🙂

  14. NMP


    No BS! I just happenchanced upon your site, and I’m loving it! I frequent other sites (when I should be working) like Huff Post, Eur Web, Diversity Inc and, oh God, BAW, but let’s just say I find the level of high-minded intellectual discourse a little wanting. I’ll leave it at that! 🙂

  15. Patrice


    I agree with the rest. You have a wonderful site. I’m glad more and more people are discovering it. Keep up the good work.

  16. Rick

    “Some rappers are heaven sent/but Self Destruction don’t pay the f_k_n’ rent!” — Ice Cube

    Yo NMP- I feel ya. I grew up listening to the positive lyrics of rappers like KRS-1 and took heed to the warning in “Self-Destruction” back in the day that certain behavior would lead to death or incarceration. But those positive lyrics don’t sell like images that promote sex, guns and violence. Isn’t this the bottom line? How do we as concerned citizens respond effectively understanding that the damaging lyrics are highly profitable? What can we do right NOW?

  17. NMP


    I gotta’ go, but don’t leave Debra Lee out, Johnson’s hand picked successor. This “sista” has been defending the content of BET for years with a straight face, but I hope with a heavy heart. Her argument, “If people like it, then what’s wrong with it?”

  18. yogo

    NMP: I just said the fight with BET is for another day. And hey, that day might be today.

    About straightening hair–that’s a poison. To the scalp and to the mind. All I’m saying is that at the end of the day whether it’s straightened, weaved to the butt with braids, or laid to the side, to some white people we are just nappy headed hos.

    I have no opinion on black women who were confused that Imus called them nappy headed even though they had relaxers in their hair.

  19. NMP


    I really really gotta’ go, but I know where you’re comin’ from. I was listening to KRS-1 the other day, and I started crying. It was a sudden overwhelming sense of loss for what was and what could have been. Old school is the only rap I let my son listen to. I’m struggling hard enough as a single mother trying to raise a Black prince, so I’ll be damn if I hear him utter self-hatin’ garbage out of his mouth. I tell him every time you hear a rapper spittin’ “ho, nigga’ or bitch,” it represents a dollar towards the sell of the souls of our ancestors. Ok, I’m really gone!

  20. Rick

    God bless you on your way, NMP 🙂

    And somewhere, a young black prince is blessed to have such a conscientious Queen for a mom…

  21. Denise

    Rev. Sharpton mentioned plans to host a town hall forum to address the culture of indecency during his appearance on Bill O’Reilly.

    In deference to his efforts in the Imus protest, I’d like to see what he proposes as the next organized step.

  22. First, in no way do I condone that asshole’s behavior, but seriously, more or equally offensive shit is said on tv and radio every single day than what he said and they don’t get fired. He only got fired so CBS didn’t lose ratings.
    He deserved it, now move on to the nexxt one and repeat the process.

  23. Cliff: Thank you for the kind words, my brotha.

    I’m glad that Imus has been axed. I’m sure that he will move on to another gig. But at least this time he will have fear and trembling in his heart before he pops off saying something about us (beautiful black women) again.

    I’m ready to launch an all out war on urban radio. I’m so sick of the music infected our kids with death, violence, perverted sexual images, and so on.

    When I’m riding with my sisters I get a chance to listen to 97.9 the Box (Radio One), herein Houston. Graphic songs about strippers, oral sex, and drugs are played on the radio like it ain’t no thing. This is the kind of music our kids our listening to. I don’t have babies of my own; but I’m deeply concerned about the kids that are listening to this crap.

    We may not be able to stop the rappers from putting this type of music out, but we sure in the hell can stop the radio stations from playing it.

  24. Rick

    “Rev. Sharpton mentioned plans to host a town hall forum to address the culture of indecency during his appearance on Bill O’Reilly. ”

    While I am still having my KRS-1 flashback moment: does anyone remember back in the day when KRS grabbed the mike from an X-Clan member — yes, on stage and in the middle of a show — and basically took over the performance? See where I’m going with this? lol

    (it wound up being an act that cost KRS dearly in terms of his image later on. How could you support “Self-Destruction” and then commit that violent act. He was called a hypocrite).

    For the record: I support this town hall meeting; I’m glad to hear Rev. Sharpton is doing this. But part of me also desperately wants the world to see that we have some many other young black men and women in our community that are leaders and concerned citizens who have an interest in leading this very critical and important debate. I hope he (Al) handles the forum meeting well.

  25. A couple of posts ago, I mentioned 97.9 the Box (KBXX), which is a Radio One Station in Houston. They’re evening jocks go by the name of the Krackernuttz. Well, it took me a few days to get what they were implying with their name, until I heard the guys announcing their name, and then hearing young girls (callers) follow up with the words “all up in your mouth.” So, what we have is men on the radio saying to our young black girls, Crack a Nut All Up in Your Mouth. These girls sound like they are 13 to 16 years old that are saying this foul stuff along with the DJ’s.

    This is the kind of crap that is hurting our kids. I’m glad that Imus is gone. I wrote MSNBC and CBS right along with everyone else. But if you are honest, it’s the local radio stations, BET, and shows like Flavor of Love that are destroying our kids from within.

    Let’s take action. Please…

  26. rikyrah

    OT: I also fired a so-called “friend” over this…

    A white person I knew for a long time said some things that he shouldn’t have and i told him exactly where he could go. From the things he said, between the “duke lacross” thing and the imus thing, he felt the need to let off some steam on the closest black person he knew. He thought I was the one…I wasn’t. We are no longer speaking. That’s perfectly fine with me. I don’t need “friends” like that. Always kept him at a distance anyways. Just wondering if anyone else found out about someone’s “true” colors this past week…You know bigotry exists, but sometimes still feel surprised when it hits you right in the face and not something you read in the paper or hear on the radio, or see on tv, or etc. etc. etc.


    I came up with my own sports racial metaphor.

    I think most White people, if they thought about Black people at the extremes of the ‘racial spectrum’, would put Black folk into 2 categories: Arthur Ashe or Jim Brown.

    Now, most people (Black & White) think that the Jim Brown is the ‘downest Brotha on the planet’. His ‘ blackness’ is ‘ bona fide’.

    For me, though, Arthur Ashe was ‘down’. I never ever doubted his ‘ blackness’. He had to be ‘Black to the core’ in order to rise and succeed in a White Man’s sport when everything and everyone was against him. Arthur Ashe knew who he was as a Black man all the way. He was no less ‘ Black’ than Jim Brown, though I believe most Whites wouldn’t see it that way.

    I believe that the worst thing in the world, for a White person, wasn’t to get an Arthur Ashe response from an Arthur Ashe type..

    Or, a Jim Brown Response from a Jim Brown type…

    It was to get the JIM BROWN response from an ARTHUR ASHE type.

    See, when that happens, there is no voice of reasoning. There is no room for negotiation. That person is too thru and the White Person better ‘watch out’.

    I assure you, they’ll never forget getting a Jim Brown Response from an Arthur Ashe type.

    Not ever.

    He’ll never forget it, Rick.

  27. dblhelix

    Just wondering if anyone else found out about someone’s “true” colors this past week…You know bigotry exists, but sometimes still feel surprised when it hits you right in the face

    Good question. Not this past week, but last summer, going door-to-door on behalf of a candidate for a local election. You don’t get to choose the district lines.

    Because you’re asking someone for a vote, they feel they have the right to dump all over you and say whatever they want. It’s like a test. Not everyone, but a significant number of people.

    We followed-up all over the district, but we also had a list we maintained of homes too racist for a return.

    It was an eye-opener, esp since our white opponent’s people ran a “we’re at a disadvantage b/c of all of the brown/blacks in the district” kind of campaign. They also decided to no-show the naacp-sponsored debate to score points w/whites in the district.

  28. Just like in Montgomery 1955…you attack the bottom line with an organized boycott and watch the power structure quake and crumble. Gotta say tho that I loooove the false platitudes being spewed by the network bosses. They are concerned with young black women making their way in society. How droll. You don’t think they were at all concerned with the loss of ad revenue do you? Hah.

  29. Cliff

    Hey Rick , what happened to KRS-1, Public Enemy, Rakim, Old School Ice Cube and other conscious rap artists of the eighties and early nineties? After hearing all this, they imposed some cold warfare on us. I think “Shock 1” said this point. If the music industry executives hear an artist try to incorporate consciousness in their lyrics, they will say “Son this is not Hot”. How can we fight this?

  30. Rick

    i’m feeling your example – it’s one that I’m sure most of us can get our hands around. Your example adds further to the idea that we as people can keep our dignity while using the appropriate amount of directness to say: “You can’t talk to me that way.”

    i can imagine one’s skin becoming very “thick” after going through an experience like the one you went through last summer. that was a real eye-opener.

    i think the tools start with awareness. we need to let our children know at an early age that the lyrics in some rap music degrades both men and women. we as black men, i feel, need to do more to enforce positive value (e.g. respect for our women, ourselves, and demonstrating what it means to be in good health: physically, spiritually, emotionally, and intellectually).

    a second tool involves organized protests/boycotts as Ernesto described in post #35. I’m thinking the sistas at Spelman got it right when they protested Nellie on their campus not long ago…what happens when it’s not just Spelman sistas, but alot more of us. the question then becomes: who is going to mobilize this effort? how do we organize?

  31. Rick

    dblhelix: also, I admired your civic activities in the midst of that very overt form of bigotry/racism.

  32. theravagebeast

    The media whore known as Rev. Al is quoted as saying the following regarding Imus:

    “He says he wants to be forgiven,” Sharpton said. “I hope he continues in that process. But we cannot afford a precedent established that the airways can commercialize and mainstream sexism and racism.”

    If he truly believes in what he says I expect him to protest outside every major rap label, and for black people to start boycotting advertisers that promote sexist rap lyrics by buying space on radio stations.

    Imus did not create the issues in the black community. He did not coin or commercialize any phrase. Why protest outside the office of Dom Imus if you plan to hit the club this weekend and dance to a record titled “My Ho Knows How to Get Down”?

    If Imus is the spark then it’s time to light a flame under black media and start calling people out. If we can’t clean up our own house then we need to leave Imus alone.

  33. Rick

    posts #29,31
    “[Angie] wrote MSNBC and CBS right along with everyone else. But if you are honest, it’s the local radio stations, BET, and shows like Flavor of Love that are destroying our kids from within.”

    Cosign. I think this is something that we can all do, that is, like Angie, put pressure on our urban radio stations and put pressure on them to clean up the messages they are sending. And just because, I am in New York, that doesn’t mean I can’t write the folks in Houston and vice versa. I might have to visit there one day with my future sons and daughters, and vice versa.

    perhaps we can create a central location where we place the names of relevent radio stations, and their mailing addresses and email addresses?

  34. Rick

    theravagebeast wrote:
    “If we can’t clean up our own house then we need to leave Imus alone.”

    You didn’t mention that they (white people) also have a responsibilty to keep THEIR houses clean too.

    Because they were NOT doing it on this occassion, blacks did it for them. But here’s the real kicker: Since the image of black women was circulated that sistas are their “house-cleaners” anyway (i.e. Gwen Ifil remarks), I would have thought more of them would have been appreciative that the sistas took out their TRASH, especially since it was sitting right on their front porch… (for all the world to see by the way. “yes, please let us export our democracy”. Yup, a stella example about how we treat women in the U.S.)

    Shouldn’t we be more thankful… and less hypocritical?

  35. You people..and yeah I said it “YOU PEOPLE”…you don’t want to put in the blood, sweat, and tears that is needed to shift all these different paradigms actively in place for new, fresh, and sometimes old, old school paradigms to overthrow and operate. I say this with all sincerity. I know. I have been there too myself resisting to fight the resistance because I knew how much it would cost and I was afraid of losing my scraps. I did what I see so many do in how we hide behind the fact we do the minimum and advertise that we are sacrificing or we are essential to the fight when really, we are in the way, a lot of us generating dust while we spin in circles with our egos leading us as fools thinking we are the key or are exempt from full inclusion and accountability to our causes of our problems.

    I finally gave in to realizing I was fighting being complete, authentic, vulnerable, and open to understanding my limitations as a mortal being as well as understanding how much I and we force to just be able to sustain in comfort as mortal beings “KNOWing BETTER” but too afraid, or too lazy, or too selfish to do. We won’t render ourselves to commit fully to building paradigms that are less structured with safety and more fluid and open with space for growth and elasticity. We will not give into the inevitability of what is required that our lives must DRASTICALLY CHANGE to recover or we too will watch our people continue to unravel and unfurl.

    Most people like you who feel an urge, the heat and anxiousness to “do something” who end up asking “what do we do next” are the same people, the same very people, that really “don’t do nothing” much more than what we are doing now. This is not commendable of reward. Our contributions to open our mouths is little energy compared to the needed fuel to generate true altruistic movement. I know this… so don’t think I am elevating myself in laying it out on others because I know a little more. I understand. I empathize but I have no sympathy. I too am just a mortal man but I get tired of thin-skinned Blacks who play victim when they are supposed to be SMARTER. We are weak soldiers that want easy training. No one hands over a war in surrender as a guilt of niceness. Feelings have to get hurt. Do you know how many times my heart has broken to find out either I was too soft for the hits or I was too caught up on fairytales and fantasies? I had to take the hits which toughen me to be able to have the courage to talk to you this way right now.

    We play out constant rituals in surmising. We behave like… Israelites… Remember how they complained when Moses was leading them? Even when we think we are being constructive like this past blog entry in surmising we just know everything, we have to hasten ourselves and ask sometimes QUESTIONS and fall back and trust that someone may know something and we just can’t see it now. Moses gave them, the Israelites, structure but he could not guarantee them comfort. He could guarantee them anything without their cooperation to not give in to giving up before they could even start. That was their hindrance. They wanted a money-back guarantee so their faith wavered. Yeah…they walked. They wasted a lot of time…their lives…walking in circles in a desert. (Sounds so familiar) They enterprised selfishly and they doubted him to follow others only to get them further distracted, soft and lazy, and weak. They tired Moses out. He doubted himself and then fought that despair to recoil to regain his strength to only be beat-up continually over and over again by the same people he was trying to help. That is us. We do it.

    We love ritualizing the ceremony of cooking another pot of pain rather than fixing our fucky recipes. We need need pots and new ingredients.

    I like the stories of the Bible because they are so appropriate in measure of how we behave today. We ask the questions like we are so committed yet our committs we so casually throw around in discourse can’t be weighed on scale of intention or measure because we conveniently can get away with hiding behind our false intentions because there is no monitor, no bar, no ruler, no scale to measure and expose us of who were really are to the core as opposed to who we think we are in passion. We are good marketers and advertisers. Still we won’t go the whole measure to risk for change. I find that so many times our passions although they seem weighted and heavy are really only hot air. And the best of us who are so kind do it too because we learned this from our parents, family, churches, communities, schools, and organizations. We see our leaders and celebrities do it. It is so hard to detach from and know what and who is real. But we have the tools to know. Sometimes knowing too much of the incovenient truths is what we can’t handle. So instead we methodize the same ways we learned. We try to validate and give redemption to our personal existences to not ever confront that we were pawns and that we now simulate the same negotiations rendered in our name for deposit against our souls, our futures, our legacies, our heritage, and our mortal sanity. We don’t know we are full of hot weightless air because our egos have mastered a resistance to fight truth to support our ideas that are really lies that we are UNCONDITIONALLY COMMITTED when we only want things approached our way, and on our terms.

    Like the Israelites who thought what they were doing by just being there in the turmoil in existence on the journey with God was sufficient and enough of what they should have to offer, they kept failing to realize they were not worthy just to proclaim their identity of being past victims reason to not have to toil to be further strengthened and made worthy. So many of us have been born into this curse of racism and we had nothing to do with its birth, however we have a duty to fight it. Our hearts however have parameters in place that will draw the line to how much we will and will not sacrifice to be worthy of complete resolve, redemption, affirmation, and vindication. We want it all but we want it individual ways and say we want togetherness. Togetherness is not separate…ways. Still we fail to understand we are not worthy and have a lot of internal work that needs to be done to get to a place of being able to be a soldier. It can be done. We have to campaign the wants to be one and the wants to sacrifice.

    That was what was at the core of the story about Moses. And we have the evidence that Frederick Douglass, Fannie Lou Hamer, W. E. B. and so many more toiled within of this same argument I am making here way before and even while they were fighting for others. They knew they were not perfect or worthy and they knew they had to take responsibility of our failures as a people as a collective flaw and not just flaws to be place on the oppressors and the bad seeds of our race (because we legitimize our bad seeds).

    We are accomplices to our fractured identities. So many of us here are alumnus of colleges, we are members of organizations, and we are some members of churches. So say, you are not a member of any of these factions. You are however a member of a family. We have the tools to correct and inhibit the social injustices we see. We must first fix ourselves. We are not using what is right in front of us. We must take ourselves down and confront those that we say we love and our closest to us that time is running out or we are going to be continually ETERNALLY STUCK in this damnation of knowing we could have done something as the seconds go by…making Mrs. Tubman and the other Mrs. Tubmans null and void to have never ever needed to exist in the first place, erasing the dedication and significance of Ella Baker and the other Ella Bakers to have never needed to exist in the first place, vanishing the wisdom and sacrifice of Mr. Douglass and other Mr. Douglass to have never existed in the first place, and so many others who sacrifice and lived so uncomfortably risking their comfort, their means, their financial stability, their family and friendships, and their sanity so we could have chances to redeem our mortal existence and make others have to be better people.

  36. theravagebeast

    Rick wrote:

    “Shouldn’t we be more thankful… and less hypocritical?”

    Thankful for what? For Imus moving from regular radio to satellite? For CBS to to take a stand against Imus but promote the same language everyday on BET and other media outlets that they own?

    Imus was shot down because a white man used a phrase that was commercialized for profit by black people (or commercialized by white people who use black people to spread the message). If black people cannot see that then we are lost as a group.

    If the controversy extends beyond Imus and into the areas of media that black people “control”, then I will be more than thankful. However history shows that a funky beat combined with a cameo in a video goes a lot further than basic self-respect.

    I’m advocating censorship via the wallet. If a radio station or entertainment channel chooses to promote sexist and racial-stereotype music, then we should boycott the stations and the companies that provide advertising. Artists should be free to produce any music they want – we should be free to stop spending our dollars.

  37. Rick

    Thankful that black women took a stand – despite the resulting hate mail and death threats – to say: “You can’t talk to me like that. I am a human being and I am worthy of dignity and respect”.
    Just like the sistas at Spelman did with Nellie on their campus a couple of years ago, when I see my sista stand up for herself like that, I believe that’s an inspiration for all of us. If you read what people here are saying, no one is giving black artists a free pass. But what we are also saying “YOU CAN’T TALK TO US LIKE THAT”. Pretty clear message to me.

    Imus may doing his thing on satellite, but he won’t be doing it on CBS anymore. And maybe, just maybe, CBS will think twice before putting some like that back on their show. no one said the fight is over. It’s just begun.

  38. NMP

    I caught Tavis Smiley with Cornell West on the Today Show this morning. Am I the only Black pseudo intellectual who pretends to know what the hell Cornell West is talking about? I’m the type of sista who is the first to attend a West lecture but post up against the wall afterwards hoping I hear someone explaining what he was saying. And does the brother have to use every word in the dictionary within the span of 2 minutes to show he is the smartest brother on the planet? We already know that. But I ain’t mad at him. 🙂

    Tavis SWORE on Thursday’s TJMS that he would NOT accept any invitation to appear on any of the talk shows to discuss the Imus matter because he, in his words, did NOT want to give any time or energy trying to change White folks but instead focus on changing us. Well, there he was planted on Matt Lauer’s sofa today. You want to take bets he’s under consideration to fill Imus’ spot on MSNBC? Which would be great!

    The one thing I hope springs from this spectacle is that it gives rise to more Black voices on the national stage rather than the singular voices of ‘nobody elected’ Black “leaders” like Rev’s Al and Jesse. I appreciate the love they have for us, but I don’t think it’s healthy for us to continue to have one or two people speaking for 36 million. We are as diverse and complex as all of America and we need to have more of us out there speaking to the diversity of thought within the Community.

  39. theravagebeast


    You made valid points. We should have taken a cue when the Spelman sisters led the charge against Nellie. Maybe now we can all use the incident with Imus to force change.

  40. rikyrah


    You made valid points. We should have taken a cue when the Spelman sisters led the charge against Nellie. Maybe now we can all use the incident with Imus to force change.

    To be real about it…

    We should have had C. Delores Tucker’s back, all those years ago. Instead, the collective ‘ we’ let that Sister hang out to dry by herself as she was pummelled by those whose coiffers she threatened.

  41. Rick

    TRB – co sign.

    All of us should follow-up on what Sista Angie said with respect to the black community putting pressure on urban radio stations. I think I will write to Hot 97.1 and Power 105 in NYC to let them know how I feel.

    HOT 97
    395 Hudson St. 7th Fl.
    New York, NY 10014
    General Info
    (212) 229.9797
    HOT 97 E-mail

    Power 105
    Mailing Address:
    Power 105.1 FM
    1120 6th Ave New York, NY 10036
    Business Line: 212-704-1051

    ps – I disagree in the strongest possible terms this idea that was expressed earlier that all of “YOU PEOPLE” are too lazy, or don’t care enough to take follow-up action. That’s totally ridiculous. Some of us are parents; some of us are active (already) in our communities on a grass roots level; others of us going door to door to mobilize others in local elections in the face of racism and bigotry; some of us are active in our religious institutions; some of us haven’t taken specific action yet, but are just looking for specific WAYS to start. Be-littling others who want to initiate change only does the will of the enemy in my opinion. If people need a little motivation to start, try encouragement, lead the way!

  42. True stories

    I went to record store, Wherehouse Music. Upon checking out a professionally dressed white woman – late 30ish – came to the counter and asked the sales clerk for xyz rapper’s CD. I looked at her and was amazed by her request. Here I was buying R&B and Neo Soul CD’s, and here she was looking to purchasing a CD by an ignorant local rapper.

    Also, I was checking out at another local record store. I had about three CD’s – R&B, Neo Soul and Old School – yet the 20- something year old white guy had three CD’s as well – all hip-hop CD’s.

    Now I am not saying that blacks don’t buy good and bad hip-hop music, but I have friends who have very little rap music in their collections.

    I really believe that non-blacks are the biggest consumers of this rap music now. Ever see Erykah Badu’s “Love of My Life” video? The abysmal side of rap culture is not going to change as long as they are pumping that kind of money into corporations.

  43. SB, I hope you don’t mind, but here is a fun music poll regarding the Imus controversy. It’s putting a light spin on a heavy subject and week.

    In regards to rap music, if white parents would stop their children, who are responsible for 80% of rap music sale receipts from buying the garage rap, then maybe rap music can be redeemed. But as long as they like 50 Cent, and he continues to sell millions, the companies are going to go and find the next 50 Cent from the hood. And no matter how healthy the Black community gets, they will always go and find the thug.

  44. NMP

    Skeptical Brotha,

    What do you now think the chances are of Harold Ford Jr running again for the TN Senate now that Imus has him on his hit list? Imus used his few remaining hours on the air yesterday to go after Harold for abandoning him in his time of need (boo hoo). Remember, Imus was one of Harold’s chief supporters and the first to make issue of that Mandigo ad from his opponent in the last election. Even if Imus doesn’t make the jump to satellite, there is going to be significant White backlash. White folks don’t march like us, but believe me Don Imus and those Duke boys are going to be their rallying cry for justice against “reverse racism”. All that said, I don’t think Ford can ever count on those “Imus said give the colored boy a chance” White folks in TN again. Harold can claim, falsely, all he wants that his grandmother was White. In the eyes of White TN, he has morphed into Al Sharpton. He should start thinking about asking his good friends, the Clintons, to help him carpet bag his way into her Senate seat if she gets the nomination, God help us.

  45. rikyrah

    why Radio One?

    Well, from my POV, Cathy Hughes is only a half-step away from Bob Johnson. She stripped the ‘Black News Department’ from nearly all of those Black radio stations she took over, which has hurt the community.

    She’s not on Bob Johnson’s level for what she has been trying to do with TVOne. Without it, she’d be a radio Bob Johnson.

  46. Trust me, I’m not trying to be combattive, but I take issue with Andrea’s comments. I feel like your comments were negative at best. Why not encourage? So what if our people haven’t been committed to a cause before…

    I don’t know about you but I learn from the past and live for the future. If I lived life according to what has happened to me in the past, then I would just mix me up a Jim Jones smoothy and check up out of here. But I live life with hope and determination that I can bring a change for the better for my life.

    This is how we as a people should live. And this is how we have lived. Contrary to the negative reports that we like to give, black folks have come a long way. And the reason why we have come a long way was certainly not because white folks gave us a free pass. Black folks fought with blood, sweat, and tears all the way in order to rise from the ashes and creat a better future for themselves and children that would come after they were long gone from this earth.

    I’m the legacy of that hard work and endurance. I’m the product of ancestors that insisted on building a better future for me.

    If I don’t do nothing else but tap into the power that God has given me and the power that I draw from African people that have come before me, I can do anything I put my mind to. In fact, we all can.

    And this is not just hot air for me. This is the way I live.

  47. I absolutely agree with rikyrah about Radio One. In fact, I think that Radio One has more reach than BET. Many of the kids I use to teach in the school district didn’t have BET in the homes because their parent couldn’t afford cable. But all of them had a radio.

  48. Denise

    Response to #54:

    I forgot how LARGE the Cathy Hughes broadcast tower has become.

    When I think of Radio One in my area, it’s WOL-1450 AM and adult contemporary Majic 102.3 FM. Neither of which cater to the young hip hop crowd.


  49. I agree with the post about white kids being the primary demographic supporting that brand of rap music with no socially redeeming value. Most of 50 Cent’s sales are going to kids who were Britney Spears fans a couple years ago. I still think targeting the worst of the offender’s record labels with organized boycotts can be effective, however.

    Also, I’m flipping channels today and see Halle Berry of all people talking about the term “nappy headed’. Ahhh…but our American culture is a sublime trip at times, ain’t it?

  50. Rick

    ** HIP-Hop On the Defensive…
    ‘I want to meet with people like Snoop Dogg,’ Reverend Al says; Russell Simmons calls comparing rap lyrics with radio host’s comments ‘misguided.’

    AKA’s Remember C. Delores Tucker / Flex Economic Muscle
    “In her remarks, McKinzie recalled that the late C. Delores Tucker, a member of Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, waged a valiant – but lonely — campaign — to expose the damage that these lyrics inflicted on black women’s psyches.

    “She was vilified for her courageous stance,” recalled McKinzie. “However, it was the right position because as its core was a resolve to derail the economic engine that creates this climate.”

    However, consistent with the economic theme that drives her administration, she asserted that the public should flex its economic muscle if powerful results are to be achieved.

    ahead of the firing…
    “McKinzie urged the 200,000 members of the Sorority to divest of all stock in NBC, CBS and their parent companies; and to urge their families to do the same.” (you will need to scroll down the page to see the article)

  51. rikyrah

    What do you now think the chances are of Harold Ford Jr running again for the TN Senate now that Imus has him on his hit list?

    Let’s be honest. If the Dark Sith had come out IN SUPPORT of Imus, he’d be dead anyway, because he’d be writing off the Black female voter base in TN.

    I still contend that he knows he has to go home, every once in awhile.

  52. Cliff

    Rick and Angie: I would like to be proactive in combating what is coming from the music industry and being from L.A., this site is like a national connection. I wrote one particular radio personality regarding a completely different issue, since the enemy has Blacks and Hispanics fighting, here in Los Angeles.
    You will not make Hispanic people love you any more for your continuous hatred campaign against your own people.
    It seems like every time I listen to your show, I hear a continuous hatred campaign against Black people, particularly Black people in the music industry. Every time you have a black guest on your show I hear you trying to incite a rivalry between the guest and other black people in the music industry. It has become common knowledge in Los Angeles County that “Big Boy” from Power 106 loves Hispanic people more than he loves himself and his own people. With the enemy of both Black and Hispanic people increasing an ever-growing war between us as members of humanity; it is important to not continue a hatred campaign against one race to seek love and affection of the other race. It is clear that you co-host “Liz” has joined in your efforts in disrespecting prominent black artists in the music industry. The jokes that come out both of your mouths are laced with venom and hatred. The jokes are funny at times, but they have become so repetitive that they have caused me to reach a boiling point of anger. People from another race respect those who love and respect themselves. People from another race do not love and respect a person or people who disrespect themselves and their own people for the joy and laughter of another race. When you have a black guest on you morning show, I hear sneaky tactics coming from you. When you make comments, you are trying to incite one black artist to make a negative comment about another black artist and these comments are made to seem innocuous or as joke. Black people are smart enough to recognize these tactics, and I think I know why you are enacting them, and it is not to seek ratings, since you have so many listeners.
    With the enemy of both people continuing to incite ignorant Blacks and Hispanics to fight and kill one another, it is important to use your influence and power wisely, being a well know radio host.
    Ignorant people are some dumb, they do not even recognize our enemy’s tactics. For example I was watching the news one day and there was an apparent shooting of a Hispanic child in the city of Los Angeles. The anchor of the news channel reported that “it is suspected that a member of the “Black Peace Stones” is responsible for the murder of this child””. They not only had a picture of a black man posing with his shirt pulled up showing a tattoo of BPS on his stomach, they also showed the territory of the neighborhood. This is one of the tactics of our enemy to continue an unjust war between Blacks and Hispanics.
    Sometimes the “ends justify the means”. We have continued to ask black gang members to stop killing each other for over 25 years. If it means that Hispanic gang members have to kill the rebellious black gang members who hate themselves and their people, as a result of the black people uniting and loving themselves and their own people like the Hispanics, then the “ends justify the means”.
    Please be responsible in what you say and abolish the hidden tactics to seek love and affection of the Hispanic people. When you love and respect your own, others will respect you even more
    Big up to Theaveragebeast, Rick, NMP, Angie, rikyrah, Shook 1, Denise, and The Political Junkie , yall are holdin it down.

  53. a journalist
    friend sent me the following after Imus firing by CBS:

    ‘But why do I get the feeling we’re on the verge of race riots?
    Seems like some white folks feel like their way of life is under attack and that we’re at fault’.

    To me,
    Imus didn’t get fired primarily for insulting a team of accomplished college girls, he got fired for screwing with two media conglomerates cash flow.

    Who could blame a race of people for a media conglomerate being more concerned about cash flow? Maybe a person who doesn’t even know what a stock certificate looks like could.

    What I’ve learned this week:

    *** the diverse commentary on race, sex, money and the uneasy alliance between the three has truly made me happy that the blackosphere exists. I have not seen or heard Al Sharpton’s and Jesse Jackson’s comments on Imus but I have heard Skeptical Brotha’s, Field Negro, JackandJIll, Rikyrah and others and I value that much much more.

    ***The rationale that Imus (and others) believe that he should be allowed to denigrate women, racially and sexually, because certain black men do so for profit.

    Using this logic, then black men should be allowed to go around getting young white co-eds to show their boobs and kiss each other on film and become millionaires in the process (e.g. Joe Francis, Girls Gone Wild).

    Yes, certain black men have monetized the coarser aspects of society but not all. It’s as if to say that Imus (and others like him) has no other black men to emulate when performing his duties as a hired employee of CBS.


    Black rappers, comedians and athletes who traffic in stereotypes are the only black men that white America knows?

    If that’s the case, then why is Major League Baseball celebrating the achievements of Jackie Robinson?

    And why was there a ceremony honoring the Tuskegee Airmen on March 29th, hosted by Congress?

    ***America continues to be a house divided by class, gender, economic reality but primarily by race. It’s not going to be right or close to right until everyone comes clean about the poison that’s killing us and what we are doing to keep perpetuating the misery.

  54. Denise


    Which, if any, candidate has publicly reached out to groups like La Raza, Maldef, and LULAC among others?

    If not, why?

  55. Denise

    p.s. Did anyone catch Michael Eric Dyson on Charlie Rose last evening? The topic was, what else, Don Imus.

    Well, when I tuned in, Dyson was on some tangent about the sexism in the black church, specifically, black male dominance in pastoral ranks, and perception that black women, who attend and tithe in greater numbers, are treated as “ecclesiastical hoes” (sp?)”. Fortunately, Rose politely cut him off and returned to the main topic.

    What’s Dyson’s story? Is he a windbag or an unconventional academic with somthing important to say?

  56. rikyrah

    What’s Dyson’s story? Is he a windbag or an unconventional academic with somthing important to say?

    I’ll be honest. I’ve had ‘issues’ with Dr. Dyson ever since I heard him try and defend the use of the word ‘ Nigger’ by the hip hop community. The man has a PhD, and with all the problems facing the community, he actually puts his scholarship behind THIS. It made me think less of him, and from there, for me, it’s gone downhill. But, that’s just me.

    He comes on Charlie Rose and the sexism he wants to talk about is IN THE CHURCH? WTF?

    I’m not saying that it doesn’t exist..

    But, isn’t the sexist, misogynistic poison being sold to our youth every single day on the airwaves, pimped by BET, MTV and the other enablers like The Source, Vibe, et al…

    Just a wee bit more damaging than what’s going on in the church?

  57. rikyrah

    ***The rationale that Imus (and others) believe that he should be allowed to denigrate women, racially and sexually, because certain black men do so for profit.

    I was talking with a friend about this yesterday, and we always come back to the same point…


    See, that’s the sticking point for us.

    And, they need to stop getting it twisted that Black folk are OkeyDoke with that kind of language being used.

    I see it in my own life. From the people I’m around, and I see it online. I hear it on the airwaves of the local Black talk radio station.

    Black folk aren’t comfortable with it- at all. In fact, those of us who aren’t comfortable with it, are slowly passing past the ‘ aren’t comfortable’ stage, and barrelling forth towards the ‘utterly pissed’ stage.

    I have no qualms anymore with calling hip hop the Modern Day Minstrel Show. I used to be uncomfortable, but no longer. Please don’t snark about all those who are ‘positive’. Admit it- they get little pub, small play, and you had to hunt them out.

    We know, as a community, that our children are being poisoned on a daily basis. Their minds and souls are being poisoned, and the faces doing the dirty work for those behind it…LOOK LIKE US.

    Why are we hesitant to call Snoop, 50, et al out for being the House Negro/Uncle Toms that they are? What they are doing, on behalf of their White music overlords is no different than what Condoleeza is doing on behalf of Shrub & Co. Different theatres; same thing.

  58. What’s Dyson’s story? Is he a windbag or an unconventional academic with somthing important to say?

    “I’ll be honest. I’ve had ‘issues’ with Dr. Dyson ever since I heard him try and defend the use of the word ‘ Nigger’ by the hip hop community. The man has a PhD, and with all the problems facing the community, he actually puts his scholarship behind THIS. It made me think less of him, and from there, for
    me, it’s gone downhill. But, that’s just me.” rikyrah

    I couldn’t agree with you more.

    A couple of years ago MED was on the State of the African American Union making a fool out of himself, because he was trying to justify the use of the word “nigga”. I was outraged that he, a man with his high degree of academia, would sit on a panel with other “educated” black folks and let that much nonsense fly out of his mouth. I was even more outraged that the other panelists didn’t rebuke him for being so ignorant.

  59. Wow! Skeptical Brotha’…a lot of people check out your blog ‘cause they hit me up to tell. It was amazing the influx of mail I read yesterday and some today. Some people got shirts and they acknowledged via reading the post I wrote yesterday on your blog. I never suspected it and I knew what said would rub some the wrong way but still people are waiting for some critical thought that ain’t cookie-cut. I am hearing that people scared to speak up and want someone else to say the inappropriate, uncomfortable things. Well…here I go again.

    Got tied up yesterday getting ready for this conference on Economic Mobility, Monday. Had to line the tables up and clean the office. You know…grunt work that I do. But just as I was prepping the room for the meeting, I wanted to know who was coming to speak. I read a draft of the framing essay one of the associates is presenting and I totally agreed with his assessment. He was shocked. So yesterday afternoon I checked the list and GOOGLED the attendees, all scholars. I might be the cleaning woman but I like to know as much as I can know of who is shaping US policies and educating business leaders, politicians, and culture cause they roll through the office because…it affects us…it affects us. I crave to mirror Mr. Freddy D. in how learning what the Master was planning.

    Well what I saw was something that made me and the other Sister, the receptionist, snicker and I wish so many of you were there then, like so many times when I come across something intriguing that isn’t for my eyes or yours. One woman coming to speak about Economic Mobility has a keen interest in helping middle-class and poverty-stricken people with NON-COGNITIVE SKILLS. That is what her university bio stated. The receptionist and I automatically murmured a quick, “Damn!” The receptionist, African (Senegalise)-American, lived here for the most part but also in France and Africa for summers and during exchange years in college. She went to an Ivy League School in Massachusettes but she hails from Wilson High School (if you know DC). Like me, she is always mystified at what we find that most people, our Brother and Sisters have no access to and can’t disclose. We are plebians who are educated but limited and have no real power or access to influence. So coming across that information (new knowledge by the conduit of happenstance) we just tried to contain our bewilderment that again we are “get(ting) it”. The problem though is that most of us, Brothers and Sisters, have no idea.

    And we know we are not alone. There are many of us with new knowledge falling into our spaces (our zones) but we are all strangers to one another stuck, stunted, or tied-up hostages of our economic stations in life that we can’t alter the paradigms in place with just sole individual will-power. We are like atoms that never touch because…there is no space for this type of building (another conversation). Everyone who gets the new knowledge don’t speak the same language in wanting to erase the divide.

    The receptionist and I knew what Non-Cognitive Skills meant because we read the stuff most Blacks don’t think is important or is connected to our problems. Also having had taught, I experienced seeing it everyday in students and parents in both Baltimore and DC. I told her I wanted to GOOGLE the term to see how many people and who in economics had been using the term as academic reference and to sense if it was one of those things that is firm and out-of-reach. When we saw the GOOGLE page, we found out the seriousness of the new knowledge we stumbled upon just yesterday. It is not something that was going to stop time or that was going to make us cry but we felt the blows crushing us of just how much we, Blacks, are not in control of the frameworks of policy in how we are socialized. But like recently when I tell us, like in this blog, or when Skeptical Brotha’ was forcing us to feel uncomfortable by persistently ranting about us not knowing something or not caring about members of color who is or “is ain’t” representing us who enact their business (Harold Ford, Obama, etc.), a lot of us do that PARADIGM thingee and resist the message.

    Non-Cognitive Skills is a PC term of calling us stupid in a nice way, eventhough it is not race-specific because it is about all stupid (okay, less educated, under-educated, not as fortunate to have access to education, left in the dark, out of range…you find a proper term) people who are not educated enough as those in charge of the design and changes of design. So many of us who are seemingly educated fall under that spectrum too because we are educated to the limits of sometimes limited educators, institutions, and/or families. So many of our people fall under this descriptive eventhough we are college-educated braggadocios. Still, so many Whites and others do too. We just know the severe unfairness that has had its governing ability to prohibit us from education, book, common sense, experience, and wisdom, that we also know even with all the access, the power to be in charge via the luxury of affording all types of education is less connected to justice than it is power and money.

    She and I could not even get upset because we agreed knowing the fatal reality that their are levels of education and information disseminated and by default of fate, some of us have access to this information through education, relationships, or occupation. The majority of people of color don’t. So much of what is to be discussed is nothing I hear any of our leading economist or sociologist talking about. Maybe they are writing papers for presentations and in journals or their books because that is what academics have to do to compete with their peers to be considered the expert, the shit, or authority. Fact is: the information is not trickling down.

    I think the information remains at dinner parties and over coffee with their own, those in their realm, like when they convene at conferences to realize they are the only Blacks but they don’t do much more with it for the conflict of interest (personal interest). Maybe that also is because of us resisting the information as paramount they proceed to never divulge and never build upon. It is as not only academic fodder as much as it should have been the latest academic trends on their campuses. The discussions have not evolved much in the past 40 years at the schools I have visited in the past 3 years. This issue could have become a serious platform and could have given others who are on their levels in various fields direction of evolution to ideas and voices. Instead they regurgitate leftover trickled down has-been information.

    The Sister there with me yesterday whose father too is an economist suffers the same bouts. He has the information but the information is rather useless to spread because people will fight him when he tells it. She herself equally interested in helping people of color says that people of color throughout the Diaspora she has traveled and lived all have a penchant for being thin-skinned when their own who have access is trying to tell them flatly or give them codes.

    Our people have no idea of what sometimes is at cost but because they are seemingly educated, the discourse and fluidity of education halts within spheres of access to the educators or mentors even who instruct and devise. So we who are educated have a false sense of reality. We depend on them to relay it and relay it fresh and with a formula. That has not been happening but instead, we have gone through the motions for almost 40 years not realizing the economic formula that is the trademark formula of this country, titled The American Dream, it does not benefit Blacks as a whole.

    Smidgets of us will make a mark at attaining what is measurably considered the American Dream but we keep trying to fake the funk and hope that vindication will one day absolve all of our humiliations of the rat-race called our Dreams. That feeds our paradigms. We never admit we know mathematically it will not work for all of us and instead we hold to ideas of “if White People just gave us this or that” or “if they just acted right” it would level out. We don’t want to devise and construct or do the hard mechanical work. We don’t want to put out the energy to be architects of uncertainty. We want to validate America’s path. Sometimes it is because of reasons as this what I was speaking of in our paradigm construct.

    But as much as it was uncomfortable to find out the coded name they use in the Economics field of people who are not as…uhm…sophisticated to comprehend…uhm…and addicted to packaged dialogue…of uhm…only receptive to the forced sensitivity…of…uhm…(Oh hell, it hard for me to find another safe but honest way to say this without offending). The Sister and I both acknowledged we too are part of the “those who don’t have access to the information”. It’s just different that our egos are not in place of self-esteem to recognize we are just lucky to happen to catch somes crumbs because of occupation through them. That is why we read whatever they read, no matter how boring it seems and detached from Blackness. They are architects designing American life and the roles we end up playing.

  60. Andrea,

    I have blown up substantially since you first found me. I am getting a lot of hits. I ain’t really sure why, I don’t know if its y’all or me or a combination of both, but all I know is people are reading me. Thanks for your support and love, I need every bit.

    As for noncognitive skills, I think the Bush Administration has those down cold, Baby. Ain’t no thought behind anything they put out or say.

  61. rikyrah
  62. rikyrah


    Which, if any, candidate has publicly reached out to groups like La Raza, Maldef, and LULAC among others?

    If not, why?

    I don’t know the answer, but I can’t see any reason why all of them haven’t done so..they’re not dumb. We just haven’t heard about it.

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