Sharpton vs. Romney

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Rev. Al Sharpton Rally @ For Darfur 30 Apr 2006189Gov. Mitt Romney (MA) - Friday Morning

 HAT TIP: Michael D. Shear
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, May 10, 2007
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Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney and civil rights activist Al Sharpton traded angry, racially charged accusations yesterday, with Romney alleging that Sharpton had uttered “bigoted” comments about Mormonism.

On the campaign trail in Iowa, Romney was asked about Sharpton’s comment during a debate Monday that “those of us who believe in God” will defeat Romney. The former Massachusetts governor told reporters that such a comment “shows that bigotry still exists in some corners.”

Sharpton angrily denied Romney’s charge in a telephone interview yesterday, and he accused Romney of stoking a verbal war with him to gain support among conservatives.

Sharpton said his comments have been taken out of their original context — a debate about religion with journalist Christopher Hitchens, who Sharpton said had suggested that Mormonism once advocated segregation.

“Attacking me, not Hitchens, shows [Romney] is playing politics,” Sharpton said. “What is bigoted about asking . . . about a denomination based on racism?”

Sharpton called on Romney to address whether the Mormon Church ever supported segregation. “He needs to clarify the truth or non-truth of what I was presented,” Sharpton said.

Richard N. Ostling, co-author of “Mormon America,” said the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, as the church is formally known, never officially sanctioned segregation. But until 1978, he said, the church barred any male with “African blood” from being a “priest,” a designation given to males over the age of 12.

“That pertains to not only holding church office but performing very routine functions and has afterlife implications,” Ostling said. “That teaching goes back at least to 1849.”

The back-and-forth highlights Romney’s sensitivity on issues relating to his faith. If elected, he would become the first Mormon president, which he plays down on the campaign trail.

Romney spokesman Kevin Madden said Sharpton owes Romney an apology “for the initial attack.” He added: “We are simply responding to a gratuitous attack from Reverend Sharpton. It’s sad that he would continue to target any fellow American on the issue of faith.”

Romney has praised his church’s decision to “ordain African Americans,” Madden said. “He has spoken very sincerely about how great a day he thought that was. He is somebody who is absolutely against discrimination.”

Tell me your thoughts.

18 thoughts on “Sharpton vs. Romney

  1. rikyrah

    My thoughts?

    My thoughts are that Al is never ever gonna vote for Flipping Mitt under any circumstances.

    Al’s not his friend.

    Listen to what one of Mitt’s new ‘ friends’ in the evangelical community had to say about him.

    Listening to the radio this morning, and a CNN host asked Ralph Reed if he thought the Mormons were real Christians.

    Asked him 3 times.

    Reed was like, ‘ well, I can’t bring my personal beliefs into this.’

    3 times.

    And, THIS is Mitt’s friend?

    I said on the other thread that I read the article on ABC.com about Mitt speaking at Robertson’s University, and that ABC had taken a gander at Robertson approved websites.
    They didn’t have to go far where Mormonism was described as a CULT.

    I mean, they didn’t have to look hard AT ALL.

    Wasn’t click here, then there, then here, then there.

    It was like – click – Mormon = cult.

    And THESE are the folks he’s been kissing ass for nearly a year?

    They’re being as Politically Correct as they want to be…

    But, you and I know damn well, that the folks who have said, the 24% of folks who have said that they WILL NOT vote for a Mormon…

    Look less like Rev. Al……

    And more like Ralph Reed.

  2. rikyrah

    PS- Evangelicals are STILL suspect to me for their wrong stance during the Civil Rights Movement….

    So, what do you think I feel about a man who grew up in a religion, and was almost grown, before Black folk could be let into heaven AS ANYTHING BUT SLAVES?

    Uh huh.

    I’m not a religious bigot, but……

    Let’s just say I’ll sleep with both eyes open around my Mormon brethren.

  3. rikyrah,

    After his astounding victory over Imus, the “left-wing” Media is just looking for a way to bloody Sharpton’s nose. He and Jesse had them all by their small balls a few weeks back and revealed them all as racial hypocrites.

  4. Maybe I feel like this because I live in the Bible Belt… But I think that white and blacks would rather anyone be the president over someone that they believe is in a “cult.” Trust me, the word hasn’t gotten out enough. When I ask people in Texas about Romney, most don’t even really know who in the hell he is. They sho’ in the hell don’t know he is in what they think of as a “cult.” Just wait, as the word about Romney spreads, his numbers will go straight to hell, the place where most folks think Romney is going.

    I’m not quite sure if whites will rush to jump on the “let’s bash Sharpton bandwagon” this time. Most folks that would be glad to jump all over Sharpton probably really feel the same way Sharpton is accused of feeling.

  5. rikyrah

    I’m not quite sure if whites will rush to jump on the “let’s bash Sharpton bandwagon” this time. Most folks that would be glad to jump all over Sharpton probably really feel the same way Sharpton is accused of feeling.

    See, that’s what I’m feeling too. I watched Tucker, and, basically nothing. I watched Rev. Al on Hardball, and Chris Matthews wasn’t attacking Sharpton; he was trying to get Rev. Al to say what we all suspect – them Bible Belters ain’t voting for NO Mormon.

    Scarborough had his new ‘Homeboy’ John Ridley on bashing Sharpton, but there wasn’t much defense of Romney in there.

  6. Mullah Cimoc

    mullah cimoc say this good lesson for ameriki people.

    1. Him sharpton having the low IQ, the low moral standard, the no ethical standard.

    why usa media master want make him speaking for all black ameriki people? him loser.

    Who elect him for speaking for the black ameriki?

    This showing the control usa media. sharpton him the working for the mighty wurlitzer, but him so low IQ him not can know this.
    (google: mighty wurlitzer +cia)

  7. Denise

    Romney is using Rev. Sharpton for some media exposure and to “shout out” to his base. Rev. needs to respond to the specific allegation and then ignore his ass.

    In other words, “feed him beans!”

  8. rikyrah

    Another one of Mitt’s newfound evangelical ‘friends’.

    From Andrew Sullivan’s Blog:

    “This message today is not about Mitt Romney. Romney is an unashamed and proud member of the Mormon cult founded by a murdering polygamist pedophile named Joseph Smith nearly 200 years ago. The teachings of the Mormon cult are doctrinally and theologically in complete opposition to the Absolute Truth of God’s Word. There is no common ground. If Mormonism is true, then the Christian faith is a complete lie. There has never been any question from the moment Smith’s cult began that it was a work of Satan and those who follow their false teachings will die and spend eternity in hell… There is no excuse, no justification for supporting and voting for a man who will be used by satan to lead the souls of millions into the eternal flames of hell!” – Bill Keller, host of the Florida-based Live Prayer TV program as well as LivePrayer.com.

    Now, remember, these are the ‘ friends’ whose ass he’s been kissing for nearly a year.

    Uh huh.

  9. rikyrah

    From:
    http://www.eyeon08.com/2007/05/11/romney-panders-with-religion-and-military/

    Romney panders with religion and military
    In the recent Time Magazine story on Mitt Romney:

    The closest he has ever come to a personal religious crisis, he recalls, was when he was in college and considering whether to go off on a mission, as his grandfather, father and brother had done. Mitt was deeply in love with Ann, his high school sweetheart and future wife, and couldn’t bear to spend more than two years away from her. He says he also felt guilty about the draft deferment he would get for it, when other young men his age were heading for Vietnam.

    ———————————————————————-

    Of course and as usual, that’s not what he used to say. Ryan Sager dug up a Boston Herald story from 1994:

    Romney, however, acknowledged he did not have any desire to serve in the military during his college and missionary days, especially after he married and became a father. ‘I was not planning on signing up for the military,’ he said. ‘It was not my desire to go off and serve in Vietnam, but nor did I take any actions to remove myself from the pool of young men who were eligible for the draft. If drafted, I would have been happy to serve, and if I didn’t get drafted I was happy to be with my wife and new child.

    A spiritual crisis about something he didn’t care about. That’s not plausible. It is not serious. And it is further proof that Romney isn’t either.

  10. Wait wait wait… let me get this straight.

    Mormons are a Christian-based religion.

    Mormons believe American Indians are a lost tribe of Israel, and held them in high regard (even though VERY few American Indians subscribe to the faith).
    Certain Rastafarians believe they are a lost tribe of Israel.

    Mormons believe(d) African Americans were an inferior race http://www.religioustolerance.org/lds_race.htm
    The Klu Klux Klan believeS African Americans are an inferior race.

    The Klu Klux Klan holds the tribes of Israel in LOW regard.
    The Klu Klux Klan also claims to be based on Christianity.

    Did I get that right?

  11. Cliff

    OT: I was at the grocery store today, and there were two LAPD officers in there buying something of which they can use on duty. I say a brotha who seemed to be in his fifties standing right behind them. All of a sudden I just saw the brotha smiling and laughing looking at the officers to return a similar gesture, and they did partially, (to probably make him feel secure that he was not initiating all that effort for no reason).

    Maybe I’m just comfortable in my ignorance to not care to know anything about Romney except for SB’s blog, but I know about Al Sharpton. Al Sharpton has heart, courage, and longevity, precision. When he fights, he studies his opponent; he never goes into battle unprepared.

  12. i’m feeling that romney’s campaign choosing to highlight only sharpton’s remarks at the debate and not hitchens is playing into one of the oldest american political dirty tricks and people who know better aren’t interested but have invaluable insight into how romney’s gonna roll for the next few months.

    good luck with that, mitt.

  13. NH DRISCOLL

    I hope that AL SHARPTON and ALL TRUE CHRISTIANS will read the following:

    Be informed about MITT ROMNEY’S MORMON faith! It is not just a CULT; it is worse than that. It is a FALSE RELIGION, pure and simple. The central emphasis of the Mormonism is “GODHOOD.” Every male Mormon strives to BECOME A GOD–a God who will create His own universe, his own planets and stars, his own children to dwell upon the earth.

    The man who becomes God has sexual relations in His own heaven with His plural wives–thousands, even millions of them. They produce “spirit children,” who then wait their own turns to be “planted” into a womb of an earthly mother by the earthly husband’s sperms, to be born as human children, who must come to love and obey their HEAVENLY FATHER. Since the man becomes a GOD ALMIGHTY, or a “HEAVENLY FATHER,” himself, the “wives” become somewhat like goddesses, but the “wives” are never worshipped–just the male GOD is worshipped.

    Click on the following link, or copy & past it into your browser, to read Joseph Smith’s entire “Discourse”:

    http://www.lightplanet.com/mormons/people/joseph_smith/follett_discourse.html

    Joseph Smith, self-pronounced Prophet, Seer, and Revelator of the Mormon Religion, stated on August 15, 1844, in his “King Follett Discourse”:

    “…I am going to tell you how God came to be God. We have imagined and supposed that God was God from all eternity. I will refute that idea, and take away the veil, so that you may see…”

    “… he [God] was once a man like us; yea, that God himself, the Father of us all, dwelt on an earth, the same as Jesus Christ himself did…”

    “…Here, then, is eternal life—to know the only wise and true God; and you have got to learn how to be Gods yourselves, and to be kings and priests to God, the same as all Gods have done before you, namely, by going from one small degree to another, and from a small capacity to a great one; from grace to grace, from exaltation to exaltation, until you attain to the resurrection of the dead, and are able to dwell in everlasting burnings, and to sit in glory, as do those who sit enthroned in everlasting power. And I want you to know that God, in the last days, while certain individuals are proclaiming his name, is not trifling with you or me….”

    “…God himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted man, and sits enthroned in yonder heavens! That is the great secret. If the veil were rent today, and the great God who holds this world in its orbit, and who upholds all worlds and all things by his power, was to make himself visible,—I say, if you were to see him today, you would see him like a man in form—like yourselves in all the person, image, and very form as a man…”

    “…The head God called together the Gods and sat in grand council to bring forth the world. The grand councilors sat at the head in yonder heavens and contemplated the creation of the worlds which were created at the time…”

    “…In the beginning, the head of the Gods called a council of the Gods; and they came together and concocted a plan to create the world and people it. When we begin to learn this way, we begin to learn the only true God, and what kind of a being we have got to worship…”

    “…When we understand the character of God, and how to come to him, he begins to unfold the heavens to us, and to tell us all about it…”

    “…There never was a time when there were not spirits; for they are co-equal [co-eternal] with our Father in heaven…God never had the power to create the spirit of man at all….”

    Joseph Smith, Brigham Young, and the subsequent “Prophets” of the MORMON CHURCH declared that because of the sin of HAM, a son of NOAH, who “looked upon his drunken father’s [NOAH’S] nakedness,” HAM was subsequently CURSED by HEAVENLY FATHER, who turned HAM’S SKIN DARK (and consequently the skin of all of HAM’S descendants). Therefore, HEAVENLY FATHER, having marked HAM and HAM’S DESCENDANTS by the darkness of their skin, to represent the darkness of their ancestor’s sin, could not enter any MORMON TEMPLE to go through the TEMPLE RITES, and—consequently–could not enter the CELESTIAL GLORY with the hope of become GODS. No person of the NEGROID RACE could be made a MORMON PRIEST, as could all other men. This rule remained in effect until the 1970’s.

    MITT ROMNEY responded publicly to a personal inquiry concerning the MORMON FAITH, “I do not know the answer to your question [about the MORMON RELIGION] because I am a politician, not a theologian.” Yet, Mitt Romney had to spend at least TWO YEARS as a MORMON MISSIONARY [as a teen-ager before being married] just the same as all other MORMON young men. Most young MORMON missionaries take unto themselves a wife almost immediately after returning from their WITNESSING MISSION so that they can be “SEALED FOR TIME AND ETERNITY” inside a MORMON TEMPLE. Only family members in good standing who are also MORMONS may attend the wedding of their MORMON children.

    MITT ROMNEY made a public statement recently saying, [sic.] “I cannot think of anything more horrible than polygamy.” Yet, he had a Great-Grandfather who was a polygamist. If the MORMON PROPHET says, “Jump!”, the BELIEVER will ask only, “How high?”, and then follow through with the commandment.

    I suggest that you go to http://www.Google.com and type in “MORMON CHURCH BELIEFS” or “CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER DAY SAINTS – BELIEFS,” then click on links that you think will be informative. Warning: Do NOT ask a MORMON MISSIONARY a question to which a truthful answer might lead you to believe that the MORMON FAITH is not a TRUE CHRISTIAN FAITH. To do so would only bring forth a lie or a change of subject. MORMON MISSIONARIES memorize the presentations they give to the prospective candidate of their false faith. If the prospective candidate’s questions cannot be couched in pleasant and appealing terms by the MISSIONARIES, they will have a man with the title of SEVENTY [a mature male, who has been ordained an ELDER and then called to the office of a SEVENTY (i.e. missionary)] come answer your questions for you at a pre-arranged time. Mormon lay-persons do not elaborate on their faith to the uninitiated, lest the inquirer be “turned off” by the truthful reply. If you—as an “outsider”–go to the trouble to make an in-depth investigation of MORMONISM and then, subsequently, inquire of a lay-person-MORMON, you will be fed only lies. Their earnest desire to the uninitiated is to give the impression that they are truly a Christian church.

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